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Jaymoss 26-07-2023 10:04
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36157185)


"Equality for everyone" is obviously right where natural borders apply. The woke agenda, in part, introduces un-natural borders and hence normal people (there's a word for you to pick on, "normal") push back.
That is impossible isn't it.

Biological women for example may well not want trans females in the same changing room but then the trans women will play the discrimination card.

I have always seen the word "Normal" as to mean the majority or the mean or average. Dunno why it can now be seen as an insult if someone is considered as not normal because often by the very definition of the word they are not

Sephiroth 26-07-2023 11:02
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36157192)
That is impossible isn't it.

Biological women for example may well not want trans females in the same changing room but then the trans women will play the discrimination card.

I have always seen the word "Normal" as to mean the majority or the mean or average. Dunno why it can now be seen as an insult if someone is considered as not normal because often by the very definition of the word they are not
I agree with you. On specifics as regards this TRANS stuff, biology must govern for the social conventions. And we should not be signing up to Stonewall programmes that are intent on doing social engineering that runs contrary to normality.

None of the foregoing remarks reduce everyone's obligations to act respectfully in regard to others.

Maggy 26-07-2023 18:31
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
As a biological woman I really don’t care what everyone else keeps in their pants. I just don’t need to look or judge in a changing room. I’m too busy trying not to put everything on show to care what anyone else has or doesn’t have.Minding your own business seems a much healthier attitude.

jfman 26-07-2023 18:46
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36157269)
As a biological woman I really don’t care what everyone else keeps in their pants. I just don’t need to look or judge in a changing room. I’m too busy trying not to put everything on show to care what anyone else has or doesn’t have.Minding your own business seems a much healthier attitude.
One could equally think it’s a much healthier attitude for the blokes to undress with the other blokes while minding their own business and women undress with the other women while minding theirs.

Sephiroth 26-07-2023 19:04
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36157269)
As a biological woman I really don’t care what everyone else keeps in their pants. I just don’t need to look or judge in a changing room. I’m too busy trying not to put everything on show to care what anyone else has or doesn’t have.Minding your own business seems a much healthier attitude.
... until the biological male in the ladies changing room .....

Pierre 27-07-2023 08:59
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157270)
One could equally think it’s a much healthier attitude for the blokes to undress with the other blokes while minding their own business and women undress with the other women while minding theirs.
It’s an old fashioned point of view, but I agree.

tweetiepooh 27-07-2023 09:18
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I worked at a hospital that had access to another hospitals sport and social club. This had sauna's in the changing rooms, one for each. The unit in the ladies often broke so they would come into our changing room to use ours. For most this was no problem but some ladies would complain that there were naked men in the men's changing room. I'd bet that if the men's sauna broke, men would be less welcome in the ladies.

Sephiroth 27-07-2023 11:14
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36157319)
I worked at a hospital that had access to another hospitals sport and social club. This had sauna's in the changing rooms, one for each. The unit in the ladies often broke so they would come into our changing room to use ours. For most this was no problem but some ladies would complain that there were naked men in the men's changing room. I'd bet that if the men's sauna broke, men would be less welcome in the ladies.
Which just proves the point that men and women are biologically different, no matter what the pronoun and they behave as such..

Mr K 27-07-2023 11:39
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36157321)
Which just proves the point that men and women are biologically different, no matter what the pronoun and they behave as such..
I don't know, I know dome blokes that behave like women, and vice versa.

We're all different you should value diversity or we'd all be very boring ;)

K (Mr) (he/him)

jfman 27-07-2023 11:48
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36157323)
I don't know, I know dome blokes that behave like women, and vice versa.

We're all different you should value diversity or we'd all be very boring ;)

K (Mr) (he/him)
Behaving like a woman doesn’t make you a woman. Just like playing Oppenheimer doesn’t make Cillian Murphy a nuclear physicist.

There’s valuing diversity (if someone wants to wear a dress or trousers who am I to judge?) and streamrollering the rights of biological females to favour a small number of individuals who, based on the limited evidence available at this stage, could merely be mentally ill biological males.

Sephiroth 27-07-2023 11:53
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36157323)
I don't know, I know dome blokes that behave like women, and vice versa.

We're all different you should value diversity or we'd all be very boring ;)

K (Mr) (he/him)
... except when using the toilet for #1s.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157324)
Behaving like a woman doesn’t make you a woman. Just like playing Oppenheimer doesn’t make Cillian Murphy a nuclear physicist.

There’s valuing diversity (if someone wants to wear a dress or trousers who am I to judge?) and streamrollering the rights of biological females to favour a small number of individuals who, based on the limited evidence available at this stage, could merely be mentally ill biological males.
Sounds about right.

Mr K 27-07-2023 12:17
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
We always have been too obsessed with toilets in this country.

TheDaddy 27-07-2023 12:26
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36157330)
We always have been too obsessed with toilets in this country.
and rightly so, you don't build an empire the size of ours without setting the threshold high for bum cleanliness

GrimUpNorth 27-07-2023 12:41
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36157326)
... except when using the toilet for #1s.
You've obviously not been out drinking round here.

Mad Max 27-07-2023 20:52
Re: When does being “woke” go too far?
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157270)
One could equally think it’s a much healthier attitude for the blokes to undress with the other blokes while minding their own business and women undress with the other women while minding theirs.
spot on.:clap::clap:


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