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Nice (try at) recovery… ;)

It’s difficult for people to "acknowledge the good things they’re doing" as it’s only a few weeks since they tanked the economy - it isn’t easy to have the mindset to thank the person who calls an ambulance for you after they’ve run you over in their car, then reversed over you to see what the bump was… ;)


I wasn’t being irate, I was pointing that your sweeping generalisation was inaccurate…

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Not sure if you're a secret millionaire, lottery winner, PPE manufacturing pub landlord, live in a cave on a remote Scottish island or just have very efficient blinkers and extremely selective memory but I'm struggling to think of a worse government than the one we've been encumbered with for the last few years and particularly this year. I take it you don't go shopping for food, heat your home or drive and love it when the people elected to represent you lie to your face.

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Somebody else is driving the car now.

Permacrisis. I still think this is the best place to live in the World.:tu:

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Demonstrating at least we have an effective state propaganda machine.

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Where would you rather live jfman?

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By Tory standards its a reasonable budget and pretty much a 180 over truss economics, it could have been far worse.

Now days though people tend to look at budgets as in "whats in it for me" and of course there will be many feeling hard done by with the tax changes.

The government I think was right to prioritise the most vulnerable.

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I will be 100% straight. I think for a good number they are giving to much. I will gladly take the £900 but in all honesty I could manage just about without it. I already pay 20% for energy more than I use building up a nice bolster cushion.( more of an accident due to my change of habits and using a lot less than I was)

I guarantee you there is a very large number of none working people with a new iphone and full Sky/Virgin package and various other luxuries those struggling on minimum wage would love to have and some that can still afford a cheeky line of coke or a bag of weed and then complain they can not afford food. I think means testing should be tighter and those on means testing budgets show what they are spending the money on and those wasting it should not get that much

With the £900 next year the 10% and the increase in benefits even with inflation I will not be much different than I am now.

I am however grateful for the energy cap even though it is going up because it is still 2K lower than estimates for next April were on Ofgems cap which would have made my life very hard indeed and at least I can budget someone for the future now although there is nothing stopping Hunt getting the sack and another backtrack I guess

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The Tories are no longer in charge?

I thought that might have made a bigger splash in the media…

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When we discussed the 2015 election, it was quite rightly pointed out that Eds Miliband and Balls were both on the bridge even though it was other members of their party who were most responsible for running the ship of state aground in what we thought (at the time) was a massive financial crisis.

Rishi Sunak has been in cabinet for most of the last 4 years. In Hunt’s case it’s most of the last 12 years. They may not have been in charge but their hands are no cleaner than Ed Balls’ or Ed Miliband’s were.

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Along with Braverman, Schapps, Cleverly, Wallace, Coffey, Raab, Dowden, Gove, Barclay, Mordaunt, True, Badenoch, Stride, Zawahi, Heston-Harris, Jack, etc, etc. - current members of the Cabinet, all been Ministers before.

"It wasn’t me, Guv, a big boy/girl did it and ran away" doesn’t really wash, due to the "Collective Cabinet Responsiblity" thing…

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There have been stormy waters to navigate. Seasoned crew bring experience to the helm :).

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No ,they keep hitting the same bloody iceberg

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This isn’t 1912; there’s more than one iceberg to negotiate. Still afloat though and no red rescue boats in sight but keep blowing the whistle titch :).

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One big huge raspberry to this reorganised shower of a crappy government.
:mad::grind::afire:

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You’re not married to that shouty bloke who hangs out in Westminster are you Maggy? Down with everything!