Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

I’m not sure how much further he could have capitulated than dying to be honest.

The cop is rightfully a convicted murderer.

No they sure dont!!

I saw a thread on City-data about BLM being exposed on the political base earlier but I still think its a good movement...

People of ANY COLOUR can be mean........

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

Did anyone see the cops bodycam footage? He wasn't actually kneeling on Floyds neck, he was on his upper back. The phone footage angle made it look like the cop was on his neck. The documentary also shows that Floyd had a lethal dose of drugs in him at the time of his arrest.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

This totally shows your ignorance. Floyd had plenty of chance to capitulate before he ended up on the ground. Floyd made the choice to resist everything that happened after that choice was because of that fact

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

:rofl: my ignorance.

The cop - a habitual offender it appears - got 22 years that’s good enough for me. He’s a murderer.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

Are you deliberately avoiding the fact Floyd would be alive if he just complied?

A criminal - a habitual offender it appears - resists arrest and dies as a result. He was an idiot

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

After several minutes, Floyd stopped speaking.[14] For the last few minutes, he lay motionless and Officer Kueng found no pulse when urged to check.[20][21] Despite this, Chauvin ignored pleas from bystanders to lift his knee from Floyd's neck

So..... laying motionless and having no pulse indicates non compliance ?

cop: "stop resisting"
detainee: lies motionless and has no pulse
cop: "stop resisting" * keeps knee on neck.

Yuo, makes absolute perfect sense.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

Criminals often resist arrest in the UK. Strangely they don’t die.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

you are about 25 yards away from my point which is resisting in any way just makes things worse

As for the Floyd case I appear to have been misinformed and his only resistance appears to have just been getting him out of the car. After that he seemed compliant. It does look to be though that he was suffering a medical incident causing him to fall to the floor more than once. Whether his past record led Chauvin to treat him harshly I do not know or whether his illness had any role in his death either.

I got it wrong with case and hold my hands up

(an admission of being wrong and fessing up. Rare thing for this forum hahahaha)

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

Also with regards to the medical stuff there was been a criminal trial in America where the jury were not convinced it was anything other than the blocking of his airways.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

I read somewhere (I will try to find it) that he was complaining about his breathing before he was even on the floor the second time.

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If you look at this video when they first sit him down he seems to be stumbling and then when down he slumps to the side. Later when he falls by the car in the distance they say at this point there was an ambulance called before Chauvin was even there. Something also happened by the car before he went to the floor. They mention possibly a struggle

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

You’re absolutely right, resisting arrest invites greater use of force against you, in any jurisdiction. You’re not going to escape arrest so really there’s no point trying.

However, what I was trying to convey is the difference in policing culture between here and the USA. Whatever problems we have, we just don’t have the levels of casual brutality amongst rank and file officers that appears to be standard practice over there.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

Agreed

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Just because he was an idiot, doesn't mean he deserved to be murdered.

Re: The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM
 

He’d also be alive if he wasn’t murdered in cold blood by a corrupt cop. What else he did or didn’t do that day is a red herring.