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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36137911)

Is it VOIP? I don't think it is. My phone is analogue and plugged into the Hub telephone port (via a filter). So it can't be VOIP.

Does it output correct voltage on the 'VOIP' ports, then? - I admit that I've never actually checked!

Tom

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Originally Posted by SirThomas (Post 36137921)

Does it output correct voltage on the 'VOIP' ports, then? - I admit that I've never actually checked!

Tom

They aten’t VOIP ports. They are RJ11 analogue ports. The Ethernet ports sre VOIP capable with a VOIP phone and a VOIP service provider.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36137917)

But is there a proper VOIP service for users with IP phones via the telephone port (which is not Ethernet).

Not sure what you mean by a 'proper VoIP service'

VoIP is a description of a technology, not a specific set of features.

The VoIP setup for the Hub based lines on Virgin Media (and Openreach for the most part) is designed to replicate an analogue phone service to minimise disruption as much as possible to how customers use their phone line, and to allow as much as existing UK approved phone equipment to be reused as possible.

The Hub based VoIP has a dedicated IP path between the Hub and Virgin Media and doesn't go near the customer accessible broadband connection.

VoIP is in VoWiFi or VoLTE on mobile devices, but those again are designed to replicate how circuit-switched calls from mobile devices work to the end user.

'OTT' VoIP uses Ethernet or WiFi compatible kit connected to a router over a broadband connection.

It is not VOIP that was in the in thing a decade or so ago with peep buying proper VOIP handsets to call abroad cheap, if it was your normal DECT phone would not work.

It's VOIP. Same concept as getting your own Analogue Telephone Adaptor (ATA) and plugging your existing phone into that. Just in this case Virgin manage the ATA (the hub) and the connection/subscription it uses.

I'd like to think eventually they'd unbundle it slightly so you can use your own voip capable phone with a username/password and settings they provide. But as it is, you have to use their hub so you are stuck with it being analogue on the cpe.

Someone explained on the VM forum why it is not actually VOIP.

"VM's home landline service via a connection from TEL1 on the back of the hub (marketing name is 21CV) is not a VOIP service"

May be in this thread: https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...VOIP%20service.

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Originally Posted by humey (Post 36138076)

Quite. But a few posts back in this thread, BenMcr drew the somewhat pedantic distinction between VOIP as a service (which is what most savvy people understand) and VOIP as a media conversion from Analogue to Digital (and back to Analogue).

It's really a semantic argument and of little importance! But if VM were to become a VOIP service provider, there could be considerable take-up.

Going by my reading that thread it seems bit of a mess for that guy at least and Vm are going to fix the issue and someday be offering VOIP.

For me now this late in the day and at my age I hardly use my phones (landline or talk/text on my mobile but use it for many things).

I cannot be bothered with 99% of people so only make calls if it is a must but again back when the buzz word was VOIP it was good for people to call their family back in India etc cheaply before mobiles cost less to do so on.