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Re: Panic at the Pumps

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36094343)

Right, because no one else ever would have predicted that.

While I don’t consider it an epiphany, others seemed to indicate it wasn’t a predictable outcome.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094382)

For those wondering how the HGV vacancies have been created

https://www.ft.com/content/8335166f-...f-d7554c3b40b2

Maybe the foreign workers who we told to sod off, don't want to come back? Wouldn't blame them tbh.

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They're rationing it now, you couldn't make this stuff up...

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This time last year they were almost giving the bloody stuff away :rolleyes:

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According to next-door app, my town is virtually dry, you can buy E10 petrol but that's about it.

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So who exactly predicted this as a result of a pandemic?:rolleyes:

The problem is that everybody thinks that although they don't need to get more petrol at the moment, they fear that by the time they do, there would be none available because of panic buying. The panic buying is a result of the the fear of the result of others panic buying. Yet another self-fulfilling prophecy. People acting in a particular manner because of the fear of everybody else acting in that same manner.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36094396)

The problem is that everybody thinks that although they don't need to get more petrol at the moment, they fear that by the time they do, there would be none available because of panic buying. The panic buying is a result of the the fear of the result of others panic buying. Yet another self-fulfilling prophecy. People acting in a particular manner because of the fear of everybody else acting in that same manner.

Becasue the media (once again) put everyone into panic mode by saying there was a shortage. :sleep:

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36094384)

Maybe the foreign workers who we told to sod off, don't want to come back? Wouldn't blame them tbh.

You wouldn’t know what honesty was, seeing as this is a complete fabrication. If they have suppose to have gone back, then why is there a bloody shortage of HGV drivers across Europe? :rolleyes:

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Anyone would think there are tens of thousands of HGV drivers just sitting at home twiddling their thumbs and living off benefits.:rolleyes:

Where are these 5,000 European HGV drivers supposed to materialise from? The best you can do is effectively pinch drivers from other countries and cause problems in those countries instead. Same goes for other jobs/professions eg Doctors, Nurses.

What is it that makes it unattractive as a job? Not being able to take alcohol or drugs? Having to spend too long a time away from home? Eg A 2000km journey means you can't go home each night. Even a "short" journey such as Dover to Birmingham is barely going to make it.

Is a structural change needed, ie a form of relay with the trucks with a truck being handed over to another driver after a certain distance. There would be potential complications in making sure a driver was ready for the next leg of the journey. With such a structure, goods would move quicker and less lorries required.

There is a limited number of people prepared to do jobs that require being away from home for extended periods of time, eg long haul air travel, ships(container, cruise), military service.

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36094400)

Becasue the media (once again) put everyone into panic mode by saying there was a shortage. :sleep:

:tu:

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36094407)

Peeing into a pop bottle doesn't sound like fun either. Wonder where they wash their hands? The verges of country are covered with the amber nectar, don't be tempted !

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36094403)

You wouldn’t know what honesty was, seeing as this is a complete fabrication. If they have suppose to have gone back, then why is there a bloody shortage of HGV drivers across Europe? :rolleyes:

We aren't seeing the empty shelves/forecourts in other countries.

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Not just Europe that these HGV drivers could come from. Think Asia, Middle East and Africa too.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094382)

For those wondering how the HGV vacancies have been created

https://www.ft.com/content/8335166f-...f-d7554c3b40b2

I heard on the radio the HGV demographic is avg age 55, white, male.

Nobody is screaming for equality and diversity in this sector though are they :rolleyes: ?

Crap money, crap hours,

If tube drivers are worth £50K +. Then maybe we will see the value of HGV drivers provide to society and the economy and treat them better.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36094409)

You liar. We’re not seeing them here either. The media has fed a problem in to itself, a few forecourts got delivery issues, people panic buy, creating bigger problems. It’s not about Brexit FFS, as much as you pathetically want this to be. :rolleyes:

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I'm blaming the newspapers for yesterday's scenes. On Thursday BP said it had closed 'a handful' of petrol stations. Yesterday's front pages went to town on this, including The Sun's 'We're Running on Empty'. They must have known such inflammatory headlines would cause panic buying.

A good description of the situation I spotted on twitter: 'Panic buying is collectively irrational, but individually rational.'