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Taf 15-08-2021 17:40
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36089824)
The West made the Taliban anyway just because we did not want the Russians to have a foothold in the region. Same thing happened when the West supported Iraq against Iran
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The Taliban, or "students" in the Pashto language, emerged in the early 1990s in northern Pakistan following the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan. It is believed that the predominantly Pashtun movement first appeared in religious seminaries - mostly paid for by money from Saudi Arabia - which preached a hardline form of Sunni Islam.

The promise made by the Taliban - in Pashtun areas straddling Pakistan and Afghanistan - was to restore peace and security and enforce their own austere version of Sharia, or Islamic law, once in power.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11451718

They were, and still are, supported and aided by Pakistan's ISI.

Damien 15-08-2021 17:40
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
What can he do now? "Opps! Oh well"

jfman 15-08-2021 17:45
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36089848)
What can he do now? "Opps! Oh well"
Prevents Starmer’s first question being “was this not worth interrupting your weekend for?”.

Chris 15-08-2021 17:53
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36089847)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11451718

They were, and still are, supported and aided by Pakistan's ISI.
Indeed. We didn’t make the Taliban directly; we made their grandfathers, the Mujahideen who resisted Soviet occupation in the 1980s. We trained and equipped them and through them bequeathed their whole society with the knowledge of how to take over a country via guerilla warfare.

SAS tactics combined with sheer religious fanaticism is a powerful mix.

peanut 15-08-2021 18:02
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
What really can you say apart from what a total clusterf..

Don't see the point in discussing it in parliament, the horse has well and truly bolted.

Mick 15-08-2021 18:58
Re: Parliament to be recalled re: Taliban in Afghanistan
 
NEW: Canada has initiated a huge humanitarian effort
by accepting Afghan refugees, they will take 20,000.

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Kabul has fallen. U.S President Biden, in hiding.

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BREAKING: KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Taliban official says they will soon declare the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan from the presidential palace in Kabul.

peanut 15-08-2021 19:15
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All Trump's fault - according to Biden. No surprise there then.

Carth 15-08-2021 19:40
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Cobra Meeting:

Boris: Right chaps, any ideas on the current situation?

The Room: mumble mumble . . Vulcan Bombers . . mumble mumble . . face masks . . mumble . . flock wallpaper . . mumble mumble . . bloody Aresnal . . mumble . .

Hugh 15-08-2021 19:45
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36089863)
All Trump's fault - according to Biden. No surprise there then.
Not quite - he’s taken responsibility for the decision.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...n-afghanistan/

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When I came to office, I inherited a deal cut by my predecessor—which he invited the Taliban to discuss at Camp David on the eve of 9/11 of 2019—that left the Taliban in the strongest position militarily since 2001 and imposed a May 1, 2021 deadline on U.S. Forces. Shortly before he left office, he also drew U.S. Forces down to a bare minimum of 2,500. Therefore, when I became President, I faced a choice—follow through on the deal, with a brief extension to get our Forces and our allies’ Forces out safely, or ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again in another country’s civil conflict. I was the fourth President to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan—two Republicans, two Democrats. I would not, and will not, pass this war onto a fifth.

Mick 15-08-2021 19:52
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Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America:-

Joe Biden gets it wrong every time on foreign policy, and many other issues. Everyone knew he couldn’t handle the pressure. Even Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, said as much. He ran out of Afghanistan instead of following the plan our Administration left for him—a plan that protected our people and our property, and ensured the Taliban would never dream of taking our Embassy or providing a base for new attacks against America. The withdrawal would be guided by facts on the ground. After I took out ISIS, I established a credible deterrent. That deterrent is now gone. The Taliban no longer has fear or respect for America, or America’s power. What a disgrace it will be when the Taliban raises their flag over America’s Embassy in Kabul. This is complete failure through weakness, incompetence, and total strategic incoherence.

peanut 15-08-2021 20:11
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They are both as bad as each other. Trump started it with his 'America first' foreign policy.

Damien 15-08-2021 20:12
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Yes, it's Biden who takes responsibility for this. Trump probably would have done the same thing and was planning as much but Trump lost and, as Mick says, Biden could have reversed this decision.

Mick 15-08-2021 20:21
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Reuters News Agency:Afghan Media now Reporting of Several Explosions in Afghanistan Capital, Kabul.

Damien 15-08-2021 20:24
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36089871)
Reuters News Agency:Afghan Media now Reporting of Several Explosions in Afghanistan Capital, Kabul.
People fighting back? The Taliban aren't going to be so stupid as to attack Western forces that are in the process of leaving are they?

Mr K 15-08-2021 20:31
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God knows how the families of the 454 British troops and civilians that have died in Afghanistan feel. What was it for?


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