Re: Welsh required for jobs
 

Does the same apply to foreigners that come to the UK and work in factories?

They need to speak, read, write English to a certain standard . . or no job

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or on appointment I did read the article

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So we’re agreed they’ll be given 6 months, good.

Nothing wrong with expecting a new employee to pick up new skills in 6 months.

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Many years ago (70s) we went to Anglesey, we popped in to a small shop, a couple were in there speaking Welsh, they stopped when we walked in and then carried on speaking in Welsh, although we didn't speak Welsh we could tell they were talking about us.

We did our shop and approached the till, after 5 minutes of stand there my dad said "sod this let's go elsewhere" and plonked the basket on the side and started to leave the owner said in English "You can't leave that there".

My just said "watch me" as we walked out.

I do also remember that during that 2 weeks it rained only 3 times, Morning, Noon and night.

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You can learn English. You can’t learn to be a different gender.

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I expected this from someone.

Here is the difference


Almost everyone in Wales speaks English so why force some to learn Welsh

Almost everyone in England speaks English so to just get by in society they need to learn some.

your point holds as much water as Henry's bucket

It is not lost on me that English is more of an international language of trade and commerce which does as a nation makes us lazy in the art of picking up other languages

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In 2001 I was in London and the woman I was seeing suggested we stop off at this pub. I went to bar and when I ordered drink 2 guys next to me said “FFS get back down the mines”.

Boring, we’ve all heard stories like that.

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So I assume you’re against expecting someone to learn new skills to a required level when they start a new job?

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tell that to the LGBTQ+ community

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Nope

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Excellent, I knew you’d come round eventually :tu:

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There is you assuming again

You do not need to learn Welsh to speak to people who speak English same as you do not need to learn how to weld to work on a checkout in Tesco

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Of course I’m assuming. You agreed there’s nothing wrong with expecting an employee to learn a new skill.

The WG is expecting new employees to learn a new skill.

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You wrote:

Quite easy you do not try to force people to learn a language for a job.

and then go on to wriggle out of it :p:

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Not the point, they have no justification for the restriction.
The only possible justification for such a policy is if there was a large enough pool of Welsh-only speakers that they had to deal with, and they had a lack of people who could also speak Welsh.

Anyway they would also have to not allow Welsh-only speaking applicants, because they would be required to communicate with English speakers.
Speaking Welsh is not needed to do the job, speaking English is.

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Only if it's necessary to perform the job.

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I'm pretty certain that if it genuinely was "discrimination" then the Equalities and Human Rights Commission would be all over it.

I presume they're not? That's because it isn't discrimination.