Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

I'm more concerned with the narrative and themes being pushed. especially the Meme that has the sentence "protect your daughter" crossed out and replaced with "educate your sons" it was also visible at the vigil.

I educate my sons not to murder anyone, not just women, that's pretty much taken as read. I teach my sons not to hit women and treat them with respect, and to have self respect. I would say any parent would do that.

There will be situation were boys are in abusive households and witness domestic violence - there is no guarantee they will grow up to emulate that. I was one such boy and I saw my father hit my mother and vice versa, many times. Even witnessed by mother attack my father with a kitchen knife. Never once have I ever laid hands on women, and never would.

the hashtag #not all men has been rubbished, akin to #alllivesmatter as men not getting the point.

Considering that twice as many men are murdered than women, by men and that men are far more likely to be randomly murdered, by a massive % by a man they have never met before. Perhaps men should be holding a vigil to end violence against men by men?

I would suggest that you can educate your sons as much as you want, but if they grow up to be a murdering psychopath that's probably more to do with their mental make up rather that their education.

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

I'm annoyed at the dick that sent them in, if the dick worked for me she would be bouncing down the car park on her bony arse on the way to the jobcentre.

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

I think there is a difference here though in that we're talking about two types of crime that are quite specific. I.E Sexual assault and domestic violence.

With men killing men it's often due to a multitude of reasons. One of them is knife crime and there are campaigns against that and occasionally protests. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47965184

You walk around some areas of London and you'll see special bins into which knives can be deposited and you'll see charity workers trying to raise money for anti-knife crime charities.

So there are efforts to stop men murdering men but that category is so broad that they're focusing on specific causes.

I think the 'educate your sons' is less about the obvious thing of not committing an assault or murdering someone and more about behaviour that isn't violence, maybe not even technically a crime, but adds to the threat women feel in the street such as catcalling, bothering random women for a phone number on the street or otherwise being a bit of a creep.

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Same people would have been there, in ADDITION to others.
They had the option to leave peacefully, but they chose otherwise.

Perhaps they would prefer fewer male teachers at primary level, and fewer fathers present.
Oops, they've done that. How did that work out?

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

Don't get me wrong, I believe we have a right to protest.


I was outside Parliament in late 2019 with loads of leavers, it was peaceful, yes a few people did block the street and stop traffic and were moved on (I don't know if anyone was arrested).


But there was no pandemic.


As a Son, Brother and Uncle I believe that EVERYONE should be able to walk down the street safely and not just women, but many chose to respect the law and light a candle in their window and stay safe.


But we know that people will go to places like this just to cause trouble, and if you chose to ignore the police when told to leave, then you must pay the price and have nobody to blame but yourself.


Many times in the last year have I needed to see family and my mum before she did, but the law said no, so I stayed and home and suffer by myself (Yes I do live with dad), but I do sometimes feel very lonely.

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Another Illegal gathering, but will the BBC use the word Illegal? I think not.


https://news.sky.com/story/sarah-eve...calls-12246564

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

I am all for protesting against domestic violence, having witnessed it first hand. This was afaik not domestic violence, we are yet to be told the motive. It may or may not have been sexually motivated, we don’t know yet.

Of course I’m all against intimidating women and girls and creepy behaviour etc, but in regards to how young men/boys and young women/girls interact and behave a wider discussion is needed in the round. I of course will have a discussion with my boys about “no means no” etc, but it will probably be more around don’t get yourself into a stupid situation with a girl.

Demonising boys is not the way forward, and I’m. It saying everybody is, but some of the rhetoric around this is very disturbing.

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Do you have the link to that NK.

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

Link to what exactly?
Erin Pizzey, champion of women's rights, says radical feminist plans to let victims of domestic abuse get away with murder are an affront to morality

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

The link to the article you quoted from, which you have just given me. Thank you.

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

I note the article is over 12 years' old!

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

How is stabbing somebody 22 times, anything but attempted murder?:confused:

Link

If he had been killed, it's much more likely there would've been a vigil for her, than for him.

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So what? Doesn't change the fact, that a large number of women are also violent.

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

Can you please define 'large' in this context.

Re: Sarah Everard Vigil and the Met Police
 

Why didn't they just hold the vigil at a later date when it would have been legal? Why does a vigil have to be immediate? It's not like Sarah would have minded and would have liked her memory and passing be even more sensational. the whole issue lent no dignity to her passing.

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