Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36046868)

I wonder how many students with inflated grades will drop out after finding the uni courses too demanding? :scratch:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36046888)

Are you saying teachers give inflated grades?

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36046883)

U turning is getting a habit for Boris and incompetent rabble. His only ministerial criteria was ' are you up for Brexit ? We'll work out which is your arse and elbow later..' (after Bozza works it out)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9568956.html

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046910)

It was the Ofqual algorythm that was faulty. They need to take the blame for that, and appeared to have done so. The government was right to recognise this problem and rectify it quickly.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046910)

It was the Ofqual algorythm that was faulty. They need to take the blame for that, and appeared to have done so. The government was right to recognise this problem and rectify it quickly.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36046902)

It’s a fact. Which is the whole reason behind the fiasco, teachers should look on the mirror rather than blame Gov.

The grades submitted by teachers were 40% higher than previous years averages. One teacher even submitted all their class for A & A* for two subjects.

The grades for Just A & A* would have been 12.5% Higher than 2019

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...r-england-2020

So yes, that’s exactly what is being said.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36046921)

Ah, the blame everyone else and take no responsibility again. There's a pattern from this Govt.

As for quickly rectifying, that's a bit of a joke. Weeks ago when they were aware of the issue and before results were published might have been better. Not wait for public outcry and their own MPs to tell them to change it 'or else'.

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36046924)

Well I'm a retired teacher and I can tell you that the grading that teachers give are rigorously checked and rechecked by a whole department.It's never one teacher alone.But then why not slur a whole profession while you are about it.. :mad:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36046926)

Exactly you name it and this government absolves itself of any blame and passes the blame on to someone else.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36046915)

And if you don't believe it was monitored and approved by the Department of Education (and the Ministers in charge), I've got a bridge you might be interested in buying... ;)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36046926)

Exactly you name it and this government absolves itself of any blame and passes the blame on to someone else.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36046965)

Oh, yeah, you seriously believe that Gavin Williamson was given a demo of the algorythm? Even the Ofqual lot couldn't have tested that out. Had they done so, even those bozos would have seen that downgrading As to Ds would not be acceptable.

GW would have been reassured that the algorithym would produce a fair reflection of the actual grades deserved based on past teacher assessments compared with actual results. There was no reason for him to disbelieve his advisors in the Civil Service - after all, they are meant to be professionals in their respective fields.

Does anyone wonder why BJ wants to reform the Civil Service?

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You have to face facts, Den. Ofqual 'experts' designed the algorythm, not GW. Ofqual has already accepted the blame, however much some would prefer to deflect this to the government.

I have been saying for some time on various subjects - Brexit, coronavirus, healthy eating experts advising government, privatisation contracts you name it. The Civil Service has a lot to answer for and has caused no end of problems for the government. The Civil Service appears not fit for purpose to me, if I may quote a phrase used by a former Labour minister who was similarly frustrated.