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pip08456 04-02-2020 14:28

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024223)
Please feel free to cite a good example :).

There isn't one. You are however free to send as much as you want to wherever you want.

Kursk 04-02-2020 14:34

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36024225)
There isn't one. You are however free to send as much as you want to wherever you want.

And you prefer that as a Country we should stop helping those in need?

pip08456 04-02-2020 15:01

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024228)
And you prefer that as a Country we should stop helping those in need?

Please cite where I said that.

papa smurf 04-02-2020 15:03

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024228)
And you prefer that as a Country we should stop helping those in need?

Have you considered volunteering to work at a local food bank or charity shop if you want to help people.

Kursk 04-02-2020 15:26

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36024230)
Please cite where I said that.

It was a question.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36024231)
Have you considered volunteering to work at a local food bank or charity shop if you want to help people.

I’m helping you papa :D.

pip08456 04-02-2020 15:33

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024234)
It was a question.


I’m helping you papa :D.

Then in answer I would say what more do you expect us to do as a Country that you consider we are not doing?

Can you please list all the countries and causes that this Country does not currently support and which ones we do should have funding withdrawn to support your choices?

Do you think we should increase the billions already spent in support?

Kursk 04-02-2020 15:37

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36024235)
Then in answer I would say what more do you expect us to do as a Country that you consider we are not doing?

Can you please list all the countries and causes that this Country does not currently support and which ones we do should have funding withdrawn to support your choices?

Do you think we should increase the billions already spent in support?

Good questions for us all to think about.

Damien 04-02-2020 15:38

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024223)
Please feel free to cite a good example :).

Well back when the Ebola crisis was happening in Africa we spent money helping to combat it with medicine and medical workers as well as better screening. As I said other than emergency spending the typical examples are setting up schools, hospitals, and other infrastructure to support self-sustaining communities rather than addressing any specific person's needs as the example you posted world be. You can't help every single person at an individual level but you can help larger groups of people help themselves.

Kursk 04-02-2020 15:55

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36024237)
Well back when the Ebola crisis was happening in Africa we spent money helping to combat it with medicine and medical workers as well as better screening. As I said other than emergency spending the typical examples are setting up schools, hospitals, and other infrastructure to support self-sustaining communities rather than addressing any specific person's needs as the example you posted world be. You can't help every single person at an individual level but you can help larger groups of people help themselves.

The cited example was illustrative: a tangible, human story to remind of the hardship we seldom experience. The thread title is prompted by the current opinion to review our aid.

Sorry, imperfect but meant as a conversation starter.

pip08456 04-02-2020 16:00

Re: Overseas aid
 
Where does the current opinion to review our aid come from? So far you have not linked to anything which advocates it.

Kursk 04-02-2020 17:52

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I thought Boris ordered a review sometime last month? I don’t think it was intended to reduce the amount but to re-evaluate its distribution but who knows where a review might lead?

pip08456 04-02-2020 17:59

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024249)
I thought Boris ordered a review sometime last month? I don’t think it was intended to reduce the amount but to re-evaluate its distribution but who knows where a review might lead?

You thought, you think. Forgive me if I just ignore it.

Hugh 04-02-2020 19:00

Re: Overseas aid
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024249)
I thought Boris ordered a review sometime last month? I don’t think it was intended to reduce the amount but to re-evaluate its distribution but who knows where a review might lead?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...id-budget.html
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Boris Johnson has ordered a review into how the UK spends its £14.6billion overseas aid budget – with an overhaul expected within months.

The Prime Minister wants to ensure handouts are closely aligned to the country's foreign policy objectives.

Options being considered include whether more research undertaken by British universities could qualify.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...-too-7zdph0t6n
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Boris Johnson is set to rewrite aid rules so funding can be spent on initiatives that benefit Britain as well as the developing world, The Times has learnt.

The move would allow ministers to channel part of the overseas development assistance (ODA) budget, which is ring-fenced at 0.7 per cent of gross national income, towards projects such as clean energy research.

Officials have been told to redraft legislation that currently obliges the Department for International Development (Dfid) to focus all aid expenditure on “poverty reduction”.

New criteria are expected to be adopted that more closely align with the broader internationally accepted OECD definition of ODA, which encompasses all expenditure that promotes the “economic development and welfare of developing countries as its main objective”. No 10 remains committed to retaining the aid budget at its current level, but believes it can be distributed more strategically and deliver advantage to the UK, it is understood.

A Whitehall source said the plan was for aid to “develop a clear link with foreign policy and strengthen ‘Global Britain’ [the government’s vision to boost the UK’s influence around the world]”, adding that initiatives like “clean energy research benefit developing countries, but also our own”.
Hope this helps...

Kursk 04-02-2020 20:20

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36024251)
You thought, you think. Forgive me if I just ignore it.

Goodness me, there is no need for such posturing, this isn’t the brexit thread. I tried to politely inform you of the info mentioned in Hugh’s links.

pip08456 04-02-2020 20:55

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36024271)
Goodness me, there is no need for such posturing, this isn’t the brexit thread. I tried to politely inform you of the info mentioned in Hugh’s links.

Not posturing at all Hugh has posted solid links not his thoughts. I'm sorry if pointing out that thoughts are not facts upsets you.


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