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pip08456 04-01-2020 18:56

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36021981)
Doesn't the Hub4 only have 4x 1 Gigabit LAN ports so that will be your bottleneck rather than your router?

Correct Snoopz.

Sephiroth 04-01-2020 19:19

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36021981)
Doesn't the Hub4 only have 4x 1 Gigabit LAN ports so that will be your bottleneck rather than your router?

That'll save me a few squids, then.


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Connectbox V2
The Connectbox v2 is a cable modem/router combination based on the Arris Touchstone TG3492 used by LibertyGlobal and subsidiaries like Unitymedia.

Technical Specifications
(Euro-)Docsis 3.0: 32x8 bonded channels
(Euro-)Docsis 3.1: 2x2 OFDM
CPU: Intel Puma 7 (CE2752)
WLAN 2,4GHz: up to 802.11n 3x3
WLAN 5GHz: up to 802.11ac Wave 2 4x4
LAN speed: 10/100/1000
LAN ports: 4
NAND: 512MB
RAM: 1024MB DDR3L

SnoopZ 04-01-2020 19:45

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Basically the Hub4 is already not fit for purpose as it can't reach full speed.

nomadking 04-01-2020 20:52

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Let's face it, these sorts of speeds are not aimed at single user households. How many PCs etc can cope with 10Gbps?

The Asus AC68U has link aggregation, so the over 1Gbps speed can be passed along by the shub in router mode.

Skie 05-01-2020 00:20

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Be interesting to see how the ASA view advertising a 1gig service whilst providing hardware that can't actually deliver that wired though.

nomadking 05-01-2020 00:36

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 36022009)
Be interesting to see how the ASA view advertising a 1gig service whilst providing hardware that can't actually deliver that wired though.

It can provide a 1gig service. The complications come with the over provisioning, which is more than 1gig. It can handle even that, if the users hardware and setup can handle it.

rssfed23 05-01-2020 01:26

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36021978)
Well it'll be interesting to see what speeds you will actually achieve. :erm:

I've had 1.1Gbps all day not noticed any slowdowns.
You can't access the Samknows speed test in Modem mode as a FYI.

Quote:

Be interesting to see how the ASA view advertising a 1gig service whilst providing hardware that can't actually deliver that wired though.
They've not had an issue with any of the Gigabit providers so far in the exact same position. I'm not aware of anyone shipping SFP or 2.5GigE on their routers. I know Gigaclear ships a combined ONT/Modem unit but many have seperate ONTs and Modems so are in an even worse position than Virgin (If we can call losing 40-60Mbits out of over 1000 "worse").
If everything in the stack is syncing at 1 Gigabit speed I can't see them getting too concerned about overhead that everyone experiences.
Besides; it's not like the hardware isn't capable. The second you put a second ethernet cable or a wifi device on there you'll get the full 1.1-1.2.

Installed at 10am:

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broad...04-01-2020.png

The increased latency around 4 is from me doing a bunch of load testing elsewhere. All in all very happy with it. Getting full speed, web browsing noticeably faster and I'll be able to work 3 times as quick as I did before (when working from home in Bioinformatics I'm downloading 100GB+ whole human genome sequences multiple times a day, so even though there's only me and the Husband in the house this will make a huge impact!

If anyone's interested in the line stats:
Spoiler: 
Downstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) SNR (dB) Modulation Channel ID
1 411000000 -1.299999 40.366287 QAM256 1
0 UNSUPPORTED 0
2 419000000 -1.400002 40.366287 QAM256 2
3 427000000 -1.400002 40.366287 QAM256 3
4 435000000 -1.299999 40.366287 QAM256 4
5 443000000 -1.000000 40.366287 QAM256 5
6 451000000 -0.700001 40.366287 QAM256 6
7 459000000 -0.700001 40.366287 QAM256 7
8 467000000 -0.700001 40.366287 QAM256 8
9 475000000 -1.000000 40.946209 QAM256 9
10 483000000 -1.000000 40.946209 QAM256 10
11 491000000 -1.000000 40.366287 QAM256 11
12 499000000 -1.000000 40.946209 QAM256 12
13 507000000 -1.000000 40.366287 QAM256 13
14 515000000 -1.099998 40.366287 QAM256 14
15 523000000 -1.200001 40.366287 QAM256 15
16 531000000 -1.099998 40.366287 QAM256 16
17 539000000 -0.900002 40.366287 QAM256 17
18 547000000 -0.799999 40.366287 QAM256 18
19 555000000 -0.799999 40.366287 QAM256 19
20 563000000 -0.799999 40.366287 QAM256 20
21 571000000 -0.900002 40.946209 QAM256 21
22 579000000 -1.000000 40.946209 QAM256 22
23 587000000 -0.900002 40.366287 QAM256 23
24 595000000 -1.099998 40.946209 QAM256 24
25 603000000 -1.299999 40.946209 QAM256 25
26 611000000 -1.299999 40.366287 QAM256 26
27 619000000 -1.299999 40.366287 QAM256 27
28 627000000 -1.500000 38.605377 QAM256 28
29 635000000 -1.500000 40.366287 QAM256 29
30 643000000 -1.400002 40.366287 QAM256 30
31 651000000 -1.200001 40.366287 QAM256 31

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Frequency (Hz) Power (dBmV) Symbol Rate (ksps) Modulation Channel ID
1 39400000 35.520599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 8
2 46200000 35.520599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 7
3 53700000 36.020599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 6
4 60300000 36.020599 5120 KSym/sec 64QAM 5

General Configuration
Network access
true
Maximum Number of CPEs
1
Baseline Privacy
true
DOCSIS Mode
3.1
Config file
87dsfd;kfoA,.iyewrkldJKDH


Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID
31522
Max Traffic Rate
1200000450
Max Traffic Burst
42600
Min Traffic Rate
0


Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID
31521
Max Traffic Rate
55000270
Max Traffic Burst
42600
Min Traffic Rate
0
Max Concatenated Burst
16320
Scheduling Type
bestEffort


Interestingly, the following message comes up in the network log upon every bootup:
Code:

RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power in Excess of 6 dB Below the Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=e4:57:40:07:8f:50;CMTS-MAC=5c:83:8f:dc:66:3d;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
But I've seen people post the same on the VM forums as well and not had a single T3/4 all day so not too concerned.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36021979)
The man estimate between 1068 & something higher.
My ASUS AC68U won't go that high on its 1 Gbps port. So I'll have to do something about that as a matter of principle!

My areas always had full speed as well. I put it down to being a completely new deployment so FTTP/RFoG combined with not oversubscribed yet.

In terms of getting full speed.....not much you can do if you want modem mode no way you'll get more than ~940-980Mbps (although the speed tests do often blip over 1Gbps when I tested it with a single cable).
What I've done is dual-NAT the thing with 2 ethernet cables from my Unifi router to the Virgin. I only ever do manual port forwarding anyway so it's not a huge issue.
Then you can either RR-Lb on the router side or segregate the network. Doing RR-Lb works well for me. You'll still hit the limit on 1 single connection but most use cases these days initiate multiple connections anyway.

Web browsing was immediately noticeably faster for me. Latency ever so slightly reduced as well.

Kushan 05-01-2020 16:34

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Great to see the gigabit packages are rolling out to other areas now. As others have mentioned, it's a shame the Hub isn't sporting some 2.5G ports but at this stage I'm more interested in the upload speed uplifts that'll hopefully come down the line.

Sephiroth 11-01-2020 10:48

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Yodel delivered the Hub 4 on the appointed day and hour.

VM have automated activation by use of text messaging. When ready, I had to send a “GO” text and they activated the circuit.

In router mode, I got 980/54. In modem mode directly to the Hub 4, same. In modem mode vis an ASU’s RT AC68U I could barely get 800/52. I put this down to the ASU’s router. So while I mull over an ASU’s AX11000, I’ll revert to router mode and big W the IP address change bullet for two attached peripherals.

I haven’t yet tried real world download speeds. I like 50 meg upload; I can’t see it rising to 100 meg until they have a DOCSIS 3.1 solution for the upstream. It would screw everybody’s upstream if, with 4 channels, they allowed 100 meg.

Three further observations:

1/
It’s DOCSIS 3.1 that’s used for the 1 Gig service;

2/
I have 32 downstream channels, one of which is duff and not locked;

3/
The Hub 4 light stays dim white in modem mOde. A minor annoyance.

rssfed23 11-01-2020 13:07

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36022559)
I have 32 downstream channels, one of which is duff and not locked;

Everyone has that. I can't remember the exact reason for it but 31 locked channels is the norm for VM Gig1 according to their forums

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36022559)
3/
There's a setting to configure that somewhere


Sephiroth 11-01-2020 16:30

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Regarding the light, there is no setting to change the colour to mauve for modem mode.

rssfed23 11-01-2020 16:41

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
*doh* you're right only router mode!

It's these kinda little things that VM always seem to get almost right but then fall short at the final hurdle :(

Sephiroth 12-01-2020 14:30

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
The ASUS ROG AX11000 has 2.5Ge.

Anyway, my area has a major outage at the moment (since 09:00).

However, there is stuff to fix on the Hub 4 in that regard. The light went red (as it should if there is no service). But now, it's dim white as if normal but no locked channels, no TV.


Kushan 12-01-2020 19:23

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36022598)
The ASUS ROG AX11000 has 2.5Ge.

Doesn't matter, the Hub4 only has 1Ge ports.

broadbandking 16-01-2020 14:41

Re: M1000 is available. How to order?
 
Has anyone done a speed test in the gig service be interesting to see, I will be getting it when comes out in my area.


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