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mrmistoffelees

29-10-2019 15:44

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36015355)

If you are going to vote Lib Dem vote Tory. It'll all be the same if given the opportunity to prop up a minority Conservative Government.

Ask yourself if you want another five years of this.

Given their diametrically opposed positions regarding Brexit. I suspect that would not happen.

denphone

29-10-2019 15:55

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36015358)

It doesn't matter how I vote. I live in a committed Tory seat with a hard truly committed to the party line MP.

Probably the same seat where my parents live Maggy.

OLD BOY

29-10-2019 15:56

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36015355)

If you are going to vote Lib Dem vote Tory. It'll all be the same if given the opportunity to prop up a minority Conservative Government.

Ask yourself if you want another five years of this.

The Lib Dems will never be able to improve their placings if everyone votes negatively or strategically.

The problem is that so many people seem to have the view that nothing will ever change. Well, it won't if ingrained behaviours do not change.

However, we will not have more of this. I do not see a coalition or no overall control rising from the ashes of this parliament.

denphone

29-10-2019 16:19

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36015356)

government saying election bill to be pulled if amendments pass

This is the latest update from ITV's Joe Pike as he bumped into Dominic Cummings..

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Me: Ready for the campaign Mr Cummings?
DC: We’re not going to have one.
Me: Really?
DC: They’ll vote for EU citizens and we’ll have to pull it.

daveeb

29-10-2019 16:39

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36015354)

Things will never change if everyone thinks that way. Best to vote for the party who most closely matches the way you think.

I'm just being pragmatic, I don't intend to give the local Tories a helping hand in through the back door by voting for a candidate (Lib Dem) that has no chance of being elected. I suspect there will be quite a lot of tactical voting around the country.

denphone

29-10-2019 17:24

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36015367)

Indeed that is what makes this election very unpredictable and volatile.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36015356)

government saying election bill to be pulled if amendments pass

The amendments on votes at 16 and votes for EU nationals not set to be put to vote.

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This means the prospect of the government facing a defeat on these issues, and then deciding to pull the bill, has probably been removed.

Paul	29-10-2019 17:52

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36015331)

( See Labour are Blue and the Tories Red in the CF poll again !)

Not anymore ;)

Carth

29-10-2019 17:55

Re: December 2019 General Election

My preference has always been the Monster Raving Loony Party . . . but it now seems there are about 5 of them :shocked:

Damien

29-10-2019 18:05

Re: December 2019 General Election

Brexit Party for me obv

nomadking

29-10-2019 18:05

Re: December 2019 General Election

They seem to be putting more time and effort into debating this than most other Brexit related bills.

denphone

29-10-2019 18:22

Re: December 2019 General Election

Some interesting thoughts from Professor John Curtice.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...ng-prediction/

jfman

29-10-2019 18:26

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36015382)

Some interesting thoughts from Professor John Curtice.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...ng-prediction/

The real question is who is paying him.

denphone

29-10-2019 18:31

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36015383)

The real question is who is paying him.

Professor John Curtice is the UK's leading election expert so it seems a very strange question as to who is paying him as l struggle to find what great relevance that has to do with it.

Carth

29-10-2019 18:36

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36015383)

The real question is who is paying him.

It's just a voting prediction jfman, it's not the same as those strange women in circus tents that ask for payment in order to predict your fascinating and totally believable future ;)

jfman

29-10-2019 18:42

Re: December 2019 General Election

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36015361)

So you're confident of a Conservative win and keen to ensure the opposition don't coalesce around the one party with a chance of winning the election.

At least don't do it under the pretence of "nothing will ever change unless folk vote Lib Dem.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36015384)

Professor John Curtice is the UK's leading election expert so it seems a very strange question as to who is paying him as l struggle to find what great relevance that has to do with it.

I'd be interested in what he was doing on the afternoon of 23rd June 2016, who he was providing data to and what they used it for.

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