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Damien 07-10-2019 22:07
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Fair enough, it isn't abused for parking tickets.

1andrew1 07-10-2019 23:34
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36013151)
The tariffs are aimed at the EU. Leave the EU and no tariffs.
In my great and unmatched wisdom, its end target is Airbus which has factories in the UK hence targetting the UK. If it wasn't against the UK, why the Scotch whisky tariffs?

nomadking 08-10-2019 00:05
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36013167)
It's against Airbus which has factories in the UK. If it wasn't against the UK, why the Scotch whisky tariffs.?
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The new duty is part of a raft of measures being imposed by the US in retaliation against EU subsidies given to aircraft maker Airbus.
It would seem we can't avoid it, as the dispute was against the EU and certain member countries.
Although
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"The UK, through the EU, is seeking confirmation from the WTO that we have complied fully with WTO rulings regarding support to Airbus, and should not be subject to tariffs."

Seems unreasonable to expect a monopoly by Boeing to have existed instead.

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In fact, in looking at the effect of the EU subsidies, the original WTO panel that first heard the case and the Appellate Body agreed that “[w]ithout the subsidies, Airbus would not have existed … and there would be no Airbus aircraft on the market.

Russ 08-10-2019 05:09
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Nothing will come from this, sadly. Yanks simply do not respect the authority and laws of other countries especially whilst at home.

Maggy 08-10-2019 08:49
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How about avoiding going off topic.

TheDaddy 10-10-2019 06:56
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36013042)
As sad as this story is there would be no point in having diplomatic immunity if it was revoked as soon as there is an incident.
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36013074)
It’s not an extradition request, she has immunity so any request would be pointless
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36013142)
“Immunity”. The clue is in the answer, as distressing as it is.
Gueorgui Makharadze was Georgian deputy ambassador to America, he killed a girl in a drink driving crash in the mid nineties and some how had his immunity revoked and was tried and convicted of manslaughter so it's not pointless, even if they refuse to waive her immunity it's not pointless as the family can then sue the American government in a US court


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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36013172)
Nothing will come from this, sadly. Yanks simply do not respect the authority and laws of other countries especially whilst at home.
They don't usually but I get the feeling this isn't going away anytime soon and how hypocritical will it look in a US court when old Gueorgui is wheeled out and his story explained.

Damien 10-10-2019 09:22
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36013447)

They don't usually but I get the feeling this isn't going away anytime soon and how hypocritical will it look in a US court when old Gueorgui is wheeled out and his story explained.
The President has defended her so I don't think we're going to see the immunity revoked.

Mr K 10-10-2019 09:42
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36013460)
The President has defended her so I don't think we're going to see the immunity revoked.
Just goes to show how we really rate with the US. They certainly won't be doing us any favours in a trade deal.

Uncle Peter 10-10-2019 11:55
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So what we can take from this is that certain individuals who are not actually diplomats and their families have a free pass to evade the justice system as and when it suits.

Cue open season for FOI requests because I suspect there's a certain amount of bravo sierra being drip fed to the media by Whitehall and this is not going to go away anytime soon.

Carth 10-10-2019 12:08
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Answer to future issues . .

All people in this country with Diplomatic Immunity must use taxis (or buses/trains) as a means of transport, and cannot drive any vehicle.

Nice little earner for cab firms, stops drinking & driving, reduces official paperwork.


will never happen :D

TheDaddy 10-10-2019 13:21
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36013460)
The President has defended her so I don't think we're going to see the immunity revoked.
10 months ago he was defending the Kurds and now look what's happening to them...

Damien 10-10-2019 14:25
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Well I guess the least we can do is ban her from coming back, expel her husband assuming he hasn't already written off coming back and have a review into which Americans can be future be given this diplomatic immunity.

Damien 13-10-2019 07:33
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
Immunity revoked: https://news.sky.com/story/diplomats...rents-11833917

Bit weird because we're saying 'it no longer applies' but she returned home and so the US don't need to give as a waiver. The US are also acknowledging she was lost it but haven't revoked it themselves.

So did we revoke it and the US are accepting that to avoid a bigger fight? Will they now extradite?

Mr K 10-01-2020 21:06
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9279146.html
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. Harry Dunn crash: UK formally requests extradition of US diplomat's wife over crash which killed British teenager
What are the chances of the US handing her over? Less than zero I'd suggest. However the other way round would be different. All for show by the UK govt.

TheDaddy 11-01-2020 03:15
Re: US diplomat's wife leaves UK after fatal crash - claims immunity
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36022537)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9279146.html

What are the chances of the US handing her over? Less than zero I'd suggest. However the other way round would be different. All for show by the UK govt.
The other way round would indeed be different as shown some years back when they got some Eastern Europeans immunity waved but when we do it the state department calls it egregious abuse whilst the bitch concerned says she's not coming back because it was an accident, you couldn't make it up, that poor family, haven't they suffered enough


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