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Mick 11-07-2019 02:09
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
BREAKING: reports from the US suggest Iran have unsuccessfully attempted to seize a British oil tanker

Maggy 11-07-2019 09:22
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48946051

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Iranian boats tried to impede a British oil tanker near the Gulf - before being driven off by a Royal Navy ship, the Ministry of Defence has said.

HMS Montrose moved between the three boats and the tanker British Heritage before issuing verbal warnings to the Iranian vessels, a spokesman said.

He described the Iranians' actions as "contrary to international law".

Iran had threatened to retaliate for the seizure of one of its own tankers, but denied any attempted seizure.

Boats believed to belong to Iran's Islamic Revolution Guard Corps (IRGC) approached the British Heritage tanker and tried to bring it to a halt as it was moving out of the Gulf into the Strait of Hormuz.

richard s 11-07-2019 21:02
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
There is trouble ahead me thinks.

Mr K 11-07-2019 21:46
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 36002196)
There is trouble ahead me thinks.
Well the Iranians aren't saints but a certain President has been stirring it..... And we are but his humble servants now.

nomadking 11-07-2019 21:56
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36002204)
Well the Iranians aren't saints but a certain President has been stirring it..... And we are but his humble servants now.
Link
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Royal Marines have boarded an oil tanker on its way to Syria thought to be breaching EU sanctions, the government of Gibraltar has said.
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The refinery has been subject to EU sanctions since 2014.
1) It is the EU orders we're having to follow.
2) It was Obama.

Mr K 11-07-2019 22:06
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36002207)
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1) It is the EU orders we're having to follow.
2) It was Obama.
Bit rich of President T to complain about them enriching Uranium beyond a limit in an agreement he's pulled out of ! He's playing games but the Iranians are outsmarting him (not hard).

TheDaddy 11-07-2019 22:11
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36002210)
Bit rich of President T to complain about them enriching Uranium beyond a limit in an agreement he's pulled out of ! He's playing games but the Iranians are outsmarting him (not hard).
I'm not so sure they are outsmarting him, I could be wrong but to my untrained eye it looks like a trap the Iranians are blundering straight into, the very odd thing is donny can't undersrand why they haven't phoned him!!!!

Chris 12-07-2019 13:48
Re: Leadership who is the next PM?
 
One thing that has made me take more of an interest in Jeremy Hunt lately has been his acknowledgement that the Royal Navy is too small. For a maritime nation with a major interest in global trade it’s insane that our Navy has become as small as it has. It’s all very well that one Type 45 destroyer has the same air defence capability as six of the T42s sent to the Falklands conflict; one T45 still can’t be in six places at once. The navy in the 1980s may primarily have been an anti-submarine force but it still had the numbers to divert to the Falklands or other hotspots (such as, for example, the Armilla Patrol that safeguarded shipping in the Persian Gulf during the Iran-Iraq war).

The Gulf is hotting up again and if Iran decides to provoke a confrontation it is more than able to overcome a single Duke-class frigate. So far all it has done is to test our resolve and found us at least marginally better prepared than when we allowed an entire survey team to get kidnapped and paraded on TV in Tehran wearing cheap nylon suits.

The Navy needs a fast, adequately armed, medium sized ship design that it can build in numbers and deploy globally, sooner rather than later. The best-in-class vessels can take on carrier group duties and let the rest protect our interests patrolling the world’s sea lanes.

Hugh 12-07-2019 14:39
Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
The frigate / Type 45 news seems to be being over-dramatised by the media.

It was a pre-planned handover, and there will be two ships there for only a brief period.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48958359
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The reality though is there were already plans to send Duncan to join the frigate HMS Montrose already based in the region.

Montrose has been working hard and is due to undergo routine maintenance. Her crew who have been working at a heightened tempo in recent weeks will also need a break.

Both warships will be operating together in the region for a short period.

Chris 12-07-2019 15:02
Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
Kinda my point ... Duncan is seriously overqualified for sea lane patrol. She’s an air defence destroyer capable of taking down the entire Iranian Air Force (were she fully armed, which admittedly she won’t be on this deployment). The Iranians have been experimenting with swarm tactics. That calls for multiple fast ships in multiple strategic locations, not one destroyer designed to shoot down jets 50 miles away.

denphone 12-07-2019 15:05
Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables
 
U.K. in Talks With U.S. to Boost Protection for Gulf Shipping.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...alflow-organic

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The U.K. is in talks with the U.S. and other allies about beefing up their military presence in the Persian Gulf to deal with the rising threat to shipping posed by Iran.

Chris 12-07-2019 18:37
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
I have salvaged a few off-topic posts from the US ambassador thread and moved them here.

richard s 12-07-2019 20:41
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
HMS Montrose will be coming home for a refit and HMS Duncan will take over duties. Never fear look what else is in the Arabian sea.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-t...abian-sea-navy

Pierre 12-07-2019 21:55
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
Iran are all mouth and no trousers.

Although I agree, we need to beef up the Navy.

The problem is , much like issues the NHS have with technology and new drugs, is that the products required are just so dam expensive.

Technology is great, but it’s expensive

ianch99 12-07-2019 22:27
Re: Iran-US crisis
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richard s (Post 36002291)
HMS Montrose will be coming home for a refit and HMS Duncan will take over duties. Never fear look what else is in the Arabian sea.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-t...abian-sea-navy
That's a relief, I though for a minute they had sent both of our ships!


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