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nomadking 10-06-2019 18:02
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So what makes them poorer once they hit 75?

75 will have been chosen to yield a seemingly affordable cost to the taxpayer. There will have been no other reasoning to the selected age. It was just another unjustified freebie handed out.

TheDaddy 10-06-2019 18:32
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Why are we, in some cases subsidising multi millionaires tv licences anyway? Seems to me the only fair way to do it is to make everyone's licence free by steping into the 21st century and scrapping it.

Chris 10-06-2019 18:45
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35998554)
So what makes them poorer once they hit 75?

75 will have been chosen to yield a seemingly affordable cost to the taxpayer. There will have been no other reasoning to the selected age. It was just another unjustified freebie handed out.
Something Gordon Brown excelled in. This was a relatively low-cost, eye-catching initiative that was supposed to help distract from his failure to ensure the state pension retained its value when compared with both inflation and wages. The licences were never truly free however; the government paid the BBC to make up what it would have lost. Gordon is of course now long gone from the treasury and a somewhat more pragmatic Tory government has refused to cover the cost and told the BBC it was up to them to decide what they wanted to do about it. Making use of pre-existing means testing procedures is the BBC’s reasonably creative solution to the poison chalice they were handed.

nomadking 10-06-2019 18:46
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The multi millionaires will have paid a fortune in tax. The undeserved subsidised were and still will be to some extent, the under-75s who live in the same household.

JPAC 10-06-2019 19:08
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Get rid of the BBC and its licence fee, simples.

Hom3r 10-06-2019 19:23
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My Dad has only just got it free.


They should be paying us to watch their brexit based carbage, and constant quiz shows.

Mr K 10-06-2019 19:29
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Originally Posted by JPAC (Post 35998577)
Get rid of the BBC and its licence fee, simples.
And you get rid of most the quality home grown original drama on tv, and content which other channels just repeat.

Can see this thread descending into the same arguments as the other 200 BBC threads !

denphone 10-06-2019 19:32
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35998587)
And you get rid of most the quality home grown original drama on tv, and content which other channels just repeat.

Can see this thread descending into the same arguments as the other 200 BBC threads !
You can bet your bottom dollar on it Mr K.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35998587)
And you get rid of most the quality home grown original drama on tv, and content which other channels just repeat.
Absolutely.

nomadking 10-06-2019 19:35
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35998587)
And you get rid of most the quality home grown original drama on tv, and content which other channels just repeat.

Can see this thread descending into the same arguments as the other 200 BBC threads !
How many of them are actually made by outside production companies? The same writers, producers, directors will still exist.

Mr K 10-06-2019 19:44
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35998591)
How many of them are actually made by outside production companies? The same writers, producers, directors will still exist.
If they aren't 'profitable' don't attract advertisers they won't get made. You'd get the same rubbish as Sky/ITV, inc. 20 mins of ads an hour. Could go on about its public service remit, local/national radio etc, but its all been said before.

Thing is people whinge about £13 a month to the BBC, but happily stump figures like £1,000 a year for Sky/Virgin, who mostly have channels like Crap, Crap+1, Crap+2 etc.......

noel43 10-06-2019 19:49
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35998540)
Well, it's just another bill, so if they are not being harassed into an early grave by electricity, gas, or water bills, it's highly unlikely they will be by the TV Licence - they get the bill, they pay it (or have a monthly direct debit, like gas, water, electricity, council tax).

Simples...
Simples is make it a subscription chnl. Then if you want it you pay for it.

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35998547)
Indeed. It is convenient to forget that free licences for over 75s was introduced in 2000 as a labour policy and the funding has been pulled by the current government, leaving the BBC to pick up the bill. See also picking up the bill for the World Service and BBC Monitoring
They tell you how many new over 75's get tv licenses, but not how many brand new tv licenses are taken out. I bet one will even out the other.

Mick 10-06-2019 19:51
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  • Don't watch Live TV, on any channel or streaming service.
  • Don't watch anything on iPlayer.
  • Don't record anything from Live TV, to watch later.
  • If you do not do any of the above, you do not need a license.
  • Don't grant entry permission to TV License People when they come to visit and they will visit and send threatening letters. If they're persistent, they will try to get court order to gain entry.
  • You can watch Netflix, Amazon Prime on your TV without a license. You can watch DVDs on your TV without a license.
  • If you grant entry and a TV License Inspector, asks you to demonstrate that you can get live TV on your telly, DON'T!!!

Here is how to handle them at your door:-

noel43 10-06-2019 19:54
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35998594)
If they aren't 'profitable' don't attract advertisers they won't get made. You'd get the same rubbish as Sky/ITV, inc. 20 mins of ads an hour. Could go on about its public service remit, local/national radio etc, but its all been said before.

Thing is people whinge about £13 a month to the BBC, but happily stump figures like £1,000 a year for Sky/Virgin, who mostly have channels like Crap, Crap+1, Crap+2 etc.......
You can get sky for £22 a month not much more than BBC but with plenty more chnls. I do not have sky, Netflix & Amazon prime which is my choice to pay for. Not my choice to pay for BBC which had more repeat than new shows.

TheDaddy 10-06-2019 20:37
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35998587)
And you get rid of most the quality home grown original drama on tv, and content
Yep bye bye :wavey:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35998594)
If they aren't 'profitable' don't attract advertisers they won't get made. You'd get the same rubbish as Sky/ITV, inc. 20 mins of ads an hour. Could go on about its public service remit, local/national radio etc, but its all been said before.
Aren't profitable because no one wants to watch them or in the case of local radio because no one is listening, literally in some cases no one

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Thing is people whinge about £13 a month to the BBC, but happily stump figures like £1,000 a year for Sky/Virgin, who mostly have channels like Crap, Crap+1, Crap+2 etc.......
Yes whinge about the most hated of taxes, to be more hated than council tax or road tax is quite an achievement but the bbc managed it, all about being number 1 for them

Hugh 10-06-2019 20:56
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35998569)
The multi millionaires will have paid a fortune in tax. The undeserved subsidised were and still will be to some extent, the under-75s who live in the same household.
i think you’re being optimistic there...


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