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I wonder how this affects current vip customers if they will be migrated to V Vip

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I think I read someone say V.VIP is £10 more than VIP. So I'd imagine not.

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I guess under this new pricing structure there won't be (m)any channels where the HD equivalent isn't packaged at the same level as SD.

That makes the commercial side of SD/HD switchover a little easier, once everyone is on the new structure. "Once" being the operative word.

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Quite strange that Virgin would announce what are essentially price rises if, in the coming days, they will get Sky Atlantic. Surely it makes more sense to announce new packages with the new content?

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What will this mean for existing Mix customers?

From what I can tell, there is no equivalent package. It would be a matter of paying significantly more for the same channels or losing some.

Some of the categorisation is bizarre and the different packages aren't even very well balanced.

Entertainment included with all 4 options:
Sky One, Sky Witness, Sky Witness + 1, GOLD HD, GOLD + 1, Comedy Central , Comedy Central HD, Comedy Central + 1, ITV 2 HD, ITV 3 HD, ITV 4 HD, ITV Be HD, E4 HD, Dave HD, More 4 HD, Film 4 HD

+ Documentaries
History, History + 1, History HD, Crime & Investigation, Crime & Investigation +1, Crime & Investigation HD, Discovery , Discovery + 1, Discovery HD, Sky Arts, Animal Planet, Animal Planet + 1, Animal Planet HD, Discovery History, Discovery History + 1, Discovery Science, Discovery Science + 1, H2, H2 HD, DMAX, DMAX + 1, Eden, Eden + 1, Eden HD, National Geographic, National Geographic + 1, National Geographic HD, Nat Geo Wild, Nat Geo Wild HD, Discovery Shed, Discovery Turbo, I.D, I.D +1, Love Nature, Love Nature HD

+ Drama
W, W +1, W HD, Alibi, Alibi + 1, Alibi HD, Universal, Universal + 1, Fox, Fox +1 , Fox HD, Syfy, Syfy +1, TCM, TCM + 1, TCM HD, Sky 2, Movies 24, Movies 24 + 1

+ Lifestyle
TLC, TLC + 1, TLC HD, E!, Good Food, Good Food + 1 , Good Food HD, Lifetime, Lifetime + 1, Lifetime HD, Real Lives, Real Lives + 1, Comedy Central Extra, Discovery Home and Health, Discovery Home and Health + 1, MTV, MTV HD, MTV Live HD, MTV Music, MTV Hits, MTV Base, MTV Dance, MTV Rocks, MTV OMG, Club MTV, VH1, Box Upfront, The Box, Box Hits, Kiss, Magic, Kerrang!

+ Sport Lite
Sky Sports News , Sky Sports Mix , Eurosport 1, Eurosport 1 HD, Eurosport 2, Eurosport 2 HD

Re: New Pick 'n' Mix option TV bundles
 

Thanks for setting the pack contents so clearly SonicMaster. It makes it easier to digest.

I don't think it means anything to the old, no longer sold, tiers like Mix and Fun. Nobody new will be able to get them, but I can't see them wanting to upset exisiting customers by moving them onto the new packs, it would be a lot of work for VM if nothing else.

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The packs are badly balanced, I agree SonicMaster. Given those are all the same price they should be more equal.
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Of topic, but it occurred to me the presence of the HD versions of ITV2/3/4/Be and More4/E4 in the Entertainment selection makes it highly unlikely they will be part of any swap, if another set of HD swaps is due any time soon. ITV and C4 obviously value the extra revenue.

Can't say I am surprised.

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One channel not appearing in any list is Universal HD, I'd assume this goes alongside Universal & +1 in the Drama pack, but thankyou SonicMaster for that excellent post.

I've had another pondering on the Kids pack being removed from Full House. So low-tier customers now have an option to add the kids-pay channels without having to go top-tier, a saving for them and extra revenue for VM.

Top-tier customers who don't use them probably don't care either way unless they're against the principle of having products taken away for what looks to me the same monthly cost.

Top-tier customers who do use these, appear to be looking at an extra charge the next time they re-contract.

FWIW I'm in the latter category so I'm naturally feeling negatively about this change.

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If they stop selling Full House to existing subscribers and remove my discount I shall simply downgrade to Player and use Now TV if/when I want pay TV.

At the end of my contract I would then have to consider whether it was worth keeping TV when I can get the channels for free via Freeview & Freesat, the phone when I never use it and 200mb BB when a lot less would suffice.

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How can it be called Full house when there is no kids channels, they should have renamed it to stop confusion

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I'm convinced VM will just run two versions of Full House. Existing customers will get their current line-up at their current price. New Customers will get the new line-up with a lower cost which they can add Kids Pack to if they want.

They probably won't change anything until the number of customers on the old tier drops away significantly.

Virgin Media and their predecessors have a long history of keeping tiers they no longer sell to new customers going. We've had the same low end tier for 15 years before they decided to get rid of it and wrote to see what we wanted to do. VM have even done the same with their PayG Mobile, some tariffs from over 10 years ago are still operating, with only minor changes.

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Full Bungalow. :D

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Semi detached house

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With the option of a garage. :monkey::D

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Other music genres should also be made available

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Unfortunately not.

Universal HD (as well as some other HD channels like Syfy HD, Sky One HD, Sky Witness HD, Sky Sports Mix HD and Sky Sports News HD) remain Full House only and are not included in the new 'Entertainment Picks'.

It's a mess.