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Bollox!

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If anything, the UKTV dispute has delayed the price rise announcement when compared to last year. I imagine VM didn't want to announce a price increase on top of that!

Not sure if the effective date of the increase has been delayed though...

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Is it a myth or isn't it? I read that they have to turn off their old pace and V boxes to free up space in order to do it.

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That's a myth. There is not, and nor has there ever been, evidence to support there being space for a single HD channel. Media Boy agrees with this, as does spiderplant.

They are removing SD boxes although that has the primary function of reducing piracy (as affected Sky's SD hardware) through card-sharing.

In the longer term it will allow possibilities removing SD/HD variants, perhaps plus one channels (due to the number of tuners) and MPEG4 compression for some SD channels but that far longer term.

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Does anyone even use the old SD boxes? I would have thought that the cards would just become invalid...Sky just basically stopped them from being used and everyone had to update. But that was like years and years ago. (Almost a decade I think).

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Sky did not stop SD boxes operating a decade ago, indeed I believe some are still in use, although will not get the full range of services (obviously).

Lengthy discussion from another place last year

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ll-sd-channels

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Yeah, I don't think that is the case anymore...or it just doesn't apply to all? I dunno if it was to incentivize us never to use the SD set up but years ago, when we moved to HD, they just waved the HD fee altogether and hubby had like 4 or 5 old SD boxes that served no purpose.

When I say "operating" I believe they stopped any of the networks that go onto an SD viewing card from working but yes, you do get the basic free to air stuff. (On those boxes). Don't think that they can stop the signal to those boxes given that it comes through a sat dish and that belongs to the customer / just sits on the house and works unless damaged.

I think that they stopped supplying / selling SD boxes nearly a decade ago and last year they stopped selling HD boxes.

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Skyy continue to supply a pay-tv service to SD boxes to boxes in-service, as Virgin do. Your original statement is false.

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It can't...if that was the case, then Sky would have to provide working SD viewing cards as HD ones will not work on SD boxes. They have said that they no longer provide subscriptions through SD viewing cards.

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Sky no longer sell subscriptions on that basis, nor do Virgin.

However the legacy boxes have been maintained by both providers for basic services.

For Sky the viewing cards were the same in HD and SD boxes, it was the pairing technique that was compromised.

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Oh I don't doubt that the basic functions continue to work - the FTA networks etc. (And it would be near enough impossible to stop those). However what I am saying is that nobody can have anything else but that (on said boxes)...

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My understanding is that SD boxes on Sky still work for their pay-tv services. If they have been withdrawn from pay-tv then that would be very recent.

If they have withdrawn service to such boxes it calls into question why they still broadcast Sky Movies in standard definition.

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I think l have started a good thread here - and VM are not paying me to be controversial ha ha

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There was already a thread about the recently announced price rise and also a thread about UKTV.

Also per your opening post the price rise would have happened without the UKTV issue as it happens every year around this time.