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SnoopZ 07-05-2018 22:30

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Does device manager have a !!! On the ethernet devices?

It is very strange you have tried 2 ethernet cards and still doesn't work.

Have you tested ethernet on the other computer using the same port on the modem?

pip08456 08-05-2018 00:44

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Don't tell me you are trying to run a Tiny computer on windows 10!

Who's the OEM Ken? It shouldn't really make a difference. Then again it could be why they went bust!

Ken W 08-05-2018 04:37

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35946194)
Don't tell me you are trying to run a Tiny computer on windows 10!

Who's the OEM Ken? It shouldn't really make a difference. Then again it could be why they went bust!


it is a Intel core DUO, ASUS motherboard with 8 meg RAM plus a ASUS video card met all the requirements to run Win 10. The company who went bust was VivaTech was based in Leathhead area.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35946177)
Does device manager have a !!! On the ethernet devices?

It is very strange you have tried 2 ethernet cards and still doesn't work.

Have you tested ethernet on the other computer using the same port on the modem?


I have plugged the Ethernet cable into another pc and that works ok.

SnoopZ 08-05-2018 09:06

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35946205)
it is a Intel core DUO, ASUS motherboard with 8 meg RAM plus a ASUS video card met all the requirements to run Win 10. The company who went bust was VivaTech was based in Leathhead area.

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I have plugged the Ethernet cable into another pc and that works ok.

In my opinion it is always good to have system restore switched on so you can always roll back incase of issues with a good chance it could fix something like this.

If you can't fix it you may have to nuke the system and do a clean install unless you want to take it into a repair shop.

Or if you want a faster system consider spending on a new one?

tweetiepooh 08-05-2018 09:38

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Try and get a live Linux DVD/CD - some are really very small downloads and can be burnt to CD or USB. Boot from that and see if Ethernet is still broken. If so then it hints towards something hardware. If it works in Linux but not Windows it hints to something in Windows.

Linux sounds scary but many now look similar to Windows and live DVD/CD will boot into the OS and likely offer a nice easy way to launch Firefox. At this stage we are simply ruling out hardware. If it doesn't work in Linux we can possibly assist in using Linux tools to debug the issue but most expertise here will be Windows.

SnoopZ 08-05-2018 10:42

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35946217)
Try and get a live Linux DVD/CD - some are really very small downloads and can be burnt to CD or USB. Boot from that and see if Ethernet is still broken. If so then it hints towards something hardware. If it works in Linux but not Windows it hints to something in Windows.

Linux sounds scary but many now look similar to Windows and live DVD/CD will boot into the OS and likely offer a nice easy way to launch Firefox. At this stage we are simply ruling out hardware. If it doesn't work in Linux we can possibly assist in using Linux tools to debug the issue but most expertise here will be Windows.

Good idea for the Linux test, this will tell Ken for sure if it is Windows or hardware.

Ken W 08-05-2018 12:21

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35946215)
In my opinion it is always good to have system restore switched on so you can always roll back incase of issues with a good chance it could fix something like this.

If you can't fix it you may have to nuke the system and do a clean install unless you want to take it into a repair shop.

Or if you want a faster system consider spending on a new one?


Some thing I must consider

Carth 08-05-2018 15:43

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Might seem silly (and it's often the silly things) but . . how many ethernet ports are on the PC rear, and are you plugging into the right one?

May be an idea to start from scratch, remove and refit to ensure things are correctly settled into their slots?

Look for simple errors before getting into complicated areas ;)

Ken W 08-05-2018 16:36

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35946252)
Might seem silly (and it's often the silly things) but . . how many ethernet ports are on the PC rear, and are you plugging into the right one?

May be an idea to start from scratch, remove and refit to ensure things are correctly settled into their slots?

Look for simple errors before getting into complicated areas ;)


I have re fitted the card in the slots on the mother board several times to ensure that it is seated ok.


One Ethernet port on the mother board and another on the Ethernet card I have fitted.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35946252)
Might seem silly (and it's often the silly things) but . . how many ethernet ports are on the PC rear, and are you plugging into the right one?

May be an idea to start from scratch, remove and refit to ensure things are correctly settled into their slots?

Look for simple errors before getting into complicated areas ;)


I think that I have found a USB to Ethernet Adaptor from Clasohson Article number 38-3732.

heero_yuy 08-05-2018 18:15

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Assuming the system information is showing the adapter as correctly configured, try from the command line (cmd) ipconfig

This will show if the adapter is active and if it has been granted an IP address in your network.

Ken W 08-05-2018 19:43

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35946290)
Assuming the system information is showing the adapter as correctly configured, try from the command line (cmd) ipconfig

This will show if the adapter is active and if it has been granted an IP address in your network.



This is the results of ipconfig




:\Users\Ken>ipconfig
Windows IP Configuration
Ethernet adapter Ethernet:




Media State . . . .. . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specificDNS Suffix . :


Ethernet adapter Ethernet 2:
Media State . . . .. . . . . . . : Media disconnected



Connection-specificDNS Suffix . :

SnoopZ 09-05-2018 10:35

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Still no luck with this Ken? Whats your next move, reinstall Windows or treat yourself to a new computer?

heero_yuy 09-05-2018 10:57

Re: Ethernet not working
 
The "media disconnected" message can have a couple of meanings: Either the cable really is disconnected or DHCP has been disabled.

ipconfig /all

will report the DHCP status of all the adaptors amongst a shedload of other stuff. If it says "no" then you'll need to re-enable DHCP.

It's possible that an update has changed this setting for the wired connection particularly if you were using WiFi at the time.

I'm not running W10 so I can't tell you where this setting is.

Ken W 09-05-2018 12:05

Re: Ethernet not working
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35946354)
The "media disconnected" message can have a couple of meanings: Either the cable really is disconnected or DHCP has been disabled.

ipconfig /all

will report the DHCP status of all the adaptors amongst a shedload of other stuff. If it says "no" then you'll need to re-enable DHCP.

It's possible that an update has changed this setting for the wired connection particularly if you were using WiFi at the time.

I'm not running W10 so I can't tell you where this setting is.


It says DHCP is enabled

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35946352)
Still no luck with this Ken? Whats your next move, reinstall Windows or treat yourself to a new computer?



At the moment I am checking the bank of State pensions see if I can afford a new PC.

SnoopZ 09-05-2018 13:14

Re: Ethernet not working
 
I would try the Linux test as suggested and if that works then you know the issue is with Windows so you could then clean install which should hopefully fix your issue.


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