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Paul 19-01-2018 22:01

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933160)
Less cars is the answer. If people didn't feel the need for several cars per household it would solve a lot of problems. Tax the hell out of extra cars in each house.

Such nonsense as usual.

One "car per household" would not solve the issue, since the problem is no driveways, and thin streets.

Oh, and households have perfectly good reasons to have more than one car btw.

Did it ever occur to you that people in the same house can actually work in different cities, and different hours.
No ? thought not, just the usual, "they have two cars, so they must be being extravagant" :rolleyes:

Mr K 19-01-2018 22:23

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35933171)
Such nonsense as usual.

One "car per household" would not solve the issue, since the problem is no driveways, and thin streets.

Oh, and households have perfectly good reasons to have more than one car btw.

Did it ever occur to you that people in the same house can actually work in different cities, and different hours.
No ? thought not, just the usual, "they have two cars, so they must be being extravagant" :rolleyes:

Genuine question. If there was cheap. reliable public transport, would you use it?

OLD BOY 20-01-2018 15:46

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933177)
Genuine question. If there was cheap. reliable public transport, would you use it?

I've always used public transport where possible but for most people, the fares are too high, a lot of the time the buses don't go where you want them to go and lack of frequency is often a problem outside the big cities.

Even people around my neighbourhood (including me with my concessionary pass) who catch buses regularly have two cars.

Unless you have cheap or free bus travel, an intricate web of routes and frequent services, people are not going to ditch their cars. There simply isn't the funding to enable such a socialist Utopia and so it's not going to happen.

Paul 20-01-2018 16:27

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933177)
Genuine question. If there was cheap. reliable public transport, would you use it?

Cheap & Reliable are not the only requirements.

The transport would need to go where I actually need it to go, from somewhere near me, and at the times I need it. It could be free and run like clockwork every 15 minutes, but I'm not going to use it if its a 3/4 mile walk away, takes 3 times longer to get anywhere, doesnt go near my workplace, and stops running at midnight.

OLD BOY 20-01-2018 19:10

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35933249)
Cheap & Reliable are not the only requirements.

The transport would need to go where I actually need it to go, from somewhere near me, and at the times I need it. It could be free and run like clockwork every 15 minutes, but I'm not going to use it if its a 3/4 mile walk away, takes 3 times longer to get anywhere, doesnt go near my workplace, and stops running at midnight.

That is basically the problem. However I do have to say that if I am out after midnight, I'm not in a fit state to drive!:beer:

Paul 20-01-2018 22:01

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
I work until midnight. :)

OLD BOY 21-01-2018 03:42

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35933279)
I work until midnight. :)

With a high out of a high?

Don't answer that!

Paul 21-01-2018 16:26

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
I cannot answer it, because i dont understand it :confused:

pip08456 21-01-2018 17:19

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35933329)
I cannot answer it, because i dont understand it :confused:

You're not on your own, I don't understand it either.

OLD BOY 21-01-2018 19:07

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35933340)
You're not on your own, I don't understand it either.

I apologise. I can't remember what I meant to say, I seem to have had some sort of spellcheck malfunction!

nffc 21-01-2018 23:18

Re: Pavement parking fines
 
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35933249)
Cheap & Reliable are not the only requirements.

The transport would need to go where I actually need it to go, from somewhere near me, and at the times I need it. It could be free and run like clockwork every 15 minutes, but I'm not going to use it if its a 3/4 mile walk away, takes 3 times longer to get anywhere, doesnt go near my workplace, and stops running at midnight.

Exactly. People have cars because it suits their requirement to get to and from where they need to, when they want to.

I'm about 2/3 minutes walk from a decent (around every 5 mins day time) bus route, but it only goes into the city centre, so if I'm not going there, I have to then find another bus out to where I'm going, and even assuming that the destination is on a similar frequency, you still have to walk to the stop then maybe wait for the bus when you're there. Also, going by bus is always going to be slower because unlike a car it needs to stop at bus stops to let people on and off (At least NCT has been exact fare in the city area for as long as I can remember, so no messing around with change).

Now if buses could be customised to provide a door-to-door direct journey... oh wait, there's a smaller version which already exists... a car


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