Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

An example today
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-40059307

Re: Corbyn is Nuts
 

l don't trust neither as they both idiots with a capital C.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

If Corbyn gets in to No. 10, kiss goodbye to N. Ireland, Wales, Scotland, Gibraltar and The Falklands.

His appeasing temperament means he would just get trampled over

Not to mention Putin thinking his Christmas has come early. :rolleyes:

And with racist Abbott as Home Secretary, she would initiate her hatred against White people.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

I think Corbyn does subscribe to the idea the West is the worst aggressor and as such he has found himself on the wrong side of many issues. Also ISIS aren't going to be receptive to talking, they want complete destruction.

But is anything he said today that controversial? He didn't say Britain was to blame but that we should look if our foreign policy makes the situation worse which isn't an unreasonable argument.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

I don't disagree with all he said but I just cannot stand the man and I despise him even more for his sympathy towards the IRA back in the 80s and 90s. I was in my 20s when the IRA bombed Manchester back in 1996, even though there was no loss of life, it was still an assault on my city.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

So how many of these extra police would be armed officers? Answer : None. As it is because of the Left, Police officers don't want to join the armed sections.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Our foreign policy leaves the world where it is - who's to say whether things would have been better (or even worse) had our foreign policy been different. A nation which lets others determine its foreign policy isn't a nation so what concessions is the idiot Corbyn prepared to offer? No concessions will be enough for the likes of ISIS so where would that leave Corbyn at the head of the UK?

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Lee Rigby's other killer is a lot better example of what we're up against, in trouble with gangs and the law etc and their the types the hate preachers target not Adeboljao who went to a non religious school with few muslims living in the area, what ever turned him he's the exception to the rule

You know we're negotiating with elements of the taliban right now, it used to be what this country excelled at, exploiting our enemies weakness and undermining their alliances, now we can't even manage to negotiate with the poxy eu without getting the brown end of the stick.

What good would it do to increase police numbers other than to make people feel a bit better, far better to have more intelligence operatives monitoring people and retaining more prison officers, just my opinion.

Sounds like a fair trade to me, it's a shame about Gibraltar, Northern Ireland and the Falklands but if that's what it takes to get shot of the rest so be it.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

I don't think he is arguing we make concessions to ISIS but that we have a less interventionist foreign policy as recent attempts seem to have increased instability as well as providing propaganda for ISIS.

I don't actually agree with a lot of it. I think we overestimate the role we play in these matters is if there isn't a large amount of history in the region that we're ignorant of. We can't fit every problem in the world into a Western-centric view of the world. I also believe that there are consequences to not intervening, what happens in one place can come and impact us. Even if it didn't you can't in good conscience leave people to a terrible fate if you can stop it. Would Corbyn have intervened in Rwanda? Sierra Leone? Bosnia? No. That isn't a progressive, liberal or humanitarian position to take. Nor is the constant apologism for Russia as they continue to interfere in Western democracies.

But still his argument today was a reasonable position to take rather than an offensive one. A insular United Kingdom that doesn't seek to exert itself on the world stage would be a poorer one in my mind but it's a view plenty of 'normal' people hold.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

And what about him being a IRA terrorist sympathiser ?

What could possibly be a fair trade here?

Clue: There is none.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Maggy., With all due respect to yourself. There are two major points here.

One, we could to the IRA, as it was a 'polictal party - Sinn Fein. And this is what we did. Talk.

Two. IS, is ten times WORSE than the IRA. I have read so many stories on what evil *******s have done.
Didn't they does a AMERICAN in petrol when he was alive, and gave him loads of drugs. And set fire to him. And showed these horrific events on the Internet. And didn't they take Gay men, blind fold them. Take up to the top of a church and throw them off. Behead BRITISH citizens.

Need l carry on.

Do we want Corbyn to talk to them, well good luck to whoever try. He wont come out alive.

I read an article this morning in The Sun on page 11 by Anila Baig. And her comments are correct. We have young Muslim men being targeted by IS. But she has said that Muslim parents need to stop this stranglehold on there kids. And if they want to to stick to there strong faith - they should go back to live in Islamic Countries.

What we have is where young kids are being targeted, and turned against us. And this is what is happening.

I am proud of my country, and that we live in a society where each one of us. No matter what religion, what colour. We stand together to fight these evil *******s.

Each day when l do my job, l see first hand what the emergency services have to put on a daily basis. What Corbyn has to do, is demand that the Conservatives stop the severe cuts that is happening to our NHS, Police and Fire Services.

When Manchester disaster happened. Off Duty staff from Police, NHS and Fire service went into work and helped - its called Duty of Care, and the way we are.

Sorry that l have gone on a bit. But its about time MPs from all parties, that we need these essential services and NOT to cut them

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

I wasn't aware that was part of the trade of but seeing as you bring it up I tend to take media accusations like that with a heart attack inducing sized pinch of salt. I remember call me Dave saying anyone who didn't support his bombing in Syria was a terrorist sympathiser and Teddy Taylor calling for the terrorist Mandela to be shot for instance, its an easy accusation to throw about.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

We may have differing views on Trump but I am with you on Corbyn. I just don't trust him and as a fellow Mancunian I also remember the past.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Only, it's not an accusation. Plenty of history exists with his ties to the IRA. Him refusing to condemn them, him inviting them back to Westminster at the total dismay of fellow Labour MPs, right after their bombing campaign started. He shared a platform with them and his racist ex lover, Abbott also said at the time she wanted the Brits to be defeated.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn blames foreign policy for terrorism in UK
 

Not sure if Malaysia was involved in any of the Middle East uprisings/revolutions/wars, but it hasn't stopped ISIS playing silly beggars there - no one is safe from these idiots.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ack-say-police

Some people just want to see the world burn - you can't negotiate with fanatics.