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Ken W 27-12-2016 15:33

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I have no problem with ID

RizzyKing 27-12-2016 15:43

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No problem with the principle although i currently don't have a photo ID so if they go ahead with this it should be in conjunction with a national ID card that is purely an ID card not the mess they tried to implement a few years ago.

Arthurgray50@blu 27-12-2016 15:49

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I look at this in several ways.

I have no problem in this. I carry a drivers licence, bank cards, staff pass etc. I don't have a problem showing any to prove my ID.

If you don't have one, you don't get to vote or get into premises.

IF, you have veils, this could prove a problem going down the racism route. And mant people will pick this up.

Several years ago, l was in an office and the bell rung at the front door. It was a courier biker.

And he was wearing a helmet. He/she was asked to remove it. He /she refused. The reception refused to let them in until ID could be proved.

This is how it should be. NO ID. NOT ALLOWED IN - SIMPLES

Kabaal 27-12-2016 16:05

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Fine by me, i always found it strange that they don't require it anyway.

Mr K 27-12-2016 16:15

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They should be concentrating on voter turnout (e.g. online voting) and increasing those on the electoral register. The last changes to registration resulted in 800,000 being cut from the register, mainly the young.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-figures-show

These changes will make turnout even lower. I suspect the motivation for this is nothing to do with security, but more trying to put more obstacles in the way for those less inclined to vote for a particular party.

Ramrod 27-12-2016 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35877959)
Fine by me, i always found it strange that they don't require it anyway.

Exactly :tu:

Damien 27-12-2016 16:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabaal (Post 35877959)
Fine by me, i always found it strange that they don't require it anyway.

Because IIRC there is no formal means of identification in the UK. Hence the problem with what happens if someone doesn't have it. As RizzyKing says I think this would work better if brought in alongside such a system.

After all it's entirely possible not to have a drivers licence or a passport. If you live in an inner-city and don't travel abroad it may even be likely.

Hugh 27-12-2016 17:58

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However, most people have a bank card or a bus pass...

Quote:

Types of identification

Sir Eric identified six principal options for the types of identification that voters could be asked to produce at polling stations. Having given careful consideration to all of the available options, we intend to explore the following types of identification in a number of pilot schemes:

● A bank card (or similar) with a signature, and the requirement to give a signature;
● Other photographic or non-photographic identification (e.g. bus pass);
● A passport, driver’s licence, or other official photographic identification;

Arthurgray50@blu 27-12-2016 18:39

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I think another form of ID would be fingerprints. Some Companies now have fingerprints to prove there staff are. And when they sign in for work.

They just put there finger onto an electronic key pad.

Again, l have no problem with that either. If you think all over the world police forces have them, including the FBI and Interpol

Sirius 27-12-2016 18:43

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About time :tu:

Hugh 27-12-2016 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35877988)
I think another form of ID would be fingerprints. Some Companies now have fingerprints to prove there staff are. And when they sign in for work.

They just put there finger onto an electronic key pad.

Again, l have no problem with that either. If you think all over the world police forces have them, including the FBI and Interpol

For criminals...

Taf 27-12-2016 19:46

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I think banks should be asked to make all bank cards with photos. It would help their security too, and they do enough checks before allowing us to open an account these days.

Or perhaps put a photo on our National Insurance cards?

Damien 27-12-2016 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35878002)
I think banks should be asked to make all bank cards with photos. It would help their security too, and they do enough checks before allowing us to open an account these days.

Or perhaps put a photo on our National Insurance cards?

I would like a National ID card so long as it contained no more additional information than what the government already has with the passport and driving licences. The French have it and can use it as a passport within Europe for example, very useful.

Ramrod 27-12-2016 20:46

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This is ludicrous. I wanted to talk to EE about upgrading a phone (just talk, not actually do it). In order to pass security they wanted me to tell them where I'd bought the original phone from.....2 years ago......I have bought several phones in that time period. I couldn't answer the next two security questions either because they were so 'random'.....and I was sat looking at my EE account online at the time! Yet we can walk into a polling station, present them with a slip of paper, say 'yep, that's me', and vote in an election! :dozey:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35878009)
The French have it and can use it as a passport within Europe for example, very useful.

Don't be silly. You don't need a passport to travel in Europe. Just ask Anis Amri.......:erm:

Damien 27-12-2016 20:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35878019)
Don't be silly. You don't need a passport to travel in Europe. Just ask Anis Amri.......:erm:

Well between a Schengen country and another European country not within the area anyway. So France/UK or anywhere requiring a flight. Either way a passport in card form would be useful IMO.


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