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Mythica 07-10-2016 13:59

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Originally Posted by kirk1690 (Post 35862277)
Of course you meant 1080i ,1080p broadcasts in the UK don't exist .:dunce:

Yes they do as do 4k broadcasts.

alexcopeland 07-10-2016 14:20

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35862354)
Yes they do as do 4k broadcasts.

Sky deliver 4K over a satellite and BT use the internet.

nialli 08-10-2016 09:58

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Originally Posted by kirk1690 (Post 35862277)
Of course you meant 1080i ,1080p broadcasts in the UK don't exist .:dunce:

Freeview HD channels often broadcast in 1080p. ITV and Channel 4 appear to use it most frequently. I was surprised the BBC didn't use it for the Rio Olympics.
It's been available of Freeview since 2011.

Nightdeamon 08-10-2016 10:39

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35862491)
Freeview HD channels often broadcast in 1080p. ITV and Channel 4 appear to use it most frequently. I was surprised the BBC didn't use it for the Rio Olympics.
It's been available of Freeview since 2011.

Indeed, http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/researcha...bc-hd-on.shtml caused a few issues at the time with sony tvs because they maintained different settings for each picture type mode.

yorkshireborn 08-10-2016 15:46

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Originally Posted by alexcopeland (Post 35862359)
Sky deliver 4K over a satellite and BT use the internet.

no they don't
Sky is UHD not 4K Sky also say its UHD.

BT say its 4K but it really is UHD.

HD is 720 to 1080

UHD is 2160 to 3240

4K is 4320.

heero_yuy 08-10-2016 16:11

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35862491)
Freeview HD channels often broadcast in 1080p. ITV and Channel 4 appear to use it most frequently. I was surprised the BBC didn't use it for the Rio Olympics.
It's been available of Freeview since 2011.

Out of interest do VM honour 1080p broadcasts when they're available?

alexcopeland 08-10-2016 16:25

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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35862528)
no they don't
Sky is UHD not 4K Sky also say its UHD.

BT say its 4K but it really is UHD.

HD is 720 to 1080

UHD is 2160 to 3240

4K is 4320.

Are you in agreement of the systems they use to delivery these higher resolution signals?

yorkshireborn 08-10-2016 16:54

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they get the signal from the source its wot they do with the signal when they get it and resend it to us.

you could compare it to a tin of beans there all the same ingredients, but all taste different.

spiderplant 08-10-2016 19:32

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35862530)
Out of interest do VM honour 1080p broadcasts when they're available?

No, broadcast HD on VM is always 1080i. The V+ and V-HD boxes don't support 1080p.

The only 1080p available on VM is from Netflix.

love Virgin2013 09-10-2016 19:45

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Have to say that Sky Sports 1 HD is bad today.

Not sure if its down to the host broadcaster as watching the football or down to VM

david_w2k 09-10-2016 20:39

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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35862528)
no they don't
Sky is UHD not 4K Sky also say its UHD.

BT say its 4K but it really is UHD.

HD is 720 to 1080

UHD is 2160 to 3240

4K is 4320.

2160 is 4K, 4320 is 8K

yorkshireborn 09-10-2016 21:35

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Originally Posted by david_w2k (Post 35862704)
2160 is 4K, 4320 is 8K

plz link to prove me and the pros wrong.

RichardCoulter 10-10-2016 01:02

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35862241)
The BBC is required to supply the same quality of broadcasts irrespective of provider(freeview, cable, satelite etc). Any differences will come from the TV itself via picture settings that are specific to the source of the images (internal freeview, HDMI etc). Eg my 3 year old Samsung has a "Game Mode" setting, which obviously doesn't apply to the internal Freeview picture.The option says that it may degrade picture quality. The TV may do the freeview decoding and upscaling in the same chip, which means the upscaling might be different between freeview and external HDMI source.

I asked about how upscaling was done by the STB/TV on a technical forum and was told that the STB/TV plays no part in upscaling as this is done completely by the broadcaster and it just reproduces the feed it's given.

When I asked if upscaled material used the same HDD space as true HD material when recording, I was told that it actually uses more!

I have read people say on forums that XYZ box is good at upscaling though :confused:

Mythica 10-10-2016 09:15

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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35862712)
plz link to prove me and the pros wrong.

Or just Google it yourself.

david_w2k 10-10-2016 09:26

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Originally Posted by yorkshireborn (Post 35862712)
plz link to prove me and the pros wrong.

Just type into Google - what resolution is 4K. Or to save you some time, here is a link from that search... Which shows it isn't 100% straightforward

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/1...the-same-thing

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Originally Posted by Mythica (Post 35862757)
Or just Google it yourself.

Beat me to it :-)


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