Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

I understand what you're saying, but there's a difference between an adult choosing something like this on the internet and a toddler waking up and going through the channels looking for a cartoon and stumbling across one of these type of channels instead!

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

I do not have an indifference to children being exposed to such material. I do object to parents not taking parental duties seriously though.

IMHO devices should by default not have these services accessable unless the parent /owner activates them.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

Now that would be a good idea.

I have just tried to view channel 981 and VM have an opt-in system as you describe; the channel wouldn't clear until I entered my PIN.

Yes, there are parents who don't take their parental responsibilities seriously enough- too many these days in fact- but some may just not be as educated or intelligent as us. Where technology is concerned, children often know more than their parents!

On my old V+ I could block these type of channels from the EPG, does anyone know if this is also possible on the TiVo?

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

You forgot the internet, which is where most are actually likely to come across it.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

But much worse is on the internet, including from other parts of the EU and abroad.

At least, so I am told :erm:

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I don't think that is likely in any responsible household. Anyway, why aren't you more concerned with the far worse internet sites which are all too easily accessible?

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I wondered how long it would take you... ;)

:Yikes: :fit: :naughty: :blush:

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

Exactly and that is where most harm can come to "children of impressionable age" That's where parents must take responsibility!

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

I thought these type of channels didn't start broadcasting until after 10 pm

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I see what you did there

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

No ISP blocking can substitute for parental responsibility here. ISP blocks are completely ineffective anyway.

For example the pirate bay is subject to a court injunction on ISPs for the last 3 years not to provide access in the UK yet in under 5 seconds I can bypass those blocks and those on all the common torrent sites. Child's play, and indeed your children will, and I don't even need to resort to a VPN.

Those that think you can regulate the internet to "protect" the innocent are utterly naive.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

IDK you'd better ask Riichard.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

Complaints have come from the parents of children too young to use the internet, but who know how to turn on their bedroom TV and go through the channels.

If the child gets up particularly early ie pre 6am, they can stumble across these channels when they are showing more inappropriate content than during the daytime.

When I looked at channel 981 yesterday afternoon, it was on. Granted, during the day the titillating and pouting from these women wasn't as exaggerated as it is in the evening, but toddlers can wake up very early.

The broadcasting day starts at 6am, so if they wake up 'during the night' pre 6am, they can stumble upon simulated sex etc.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

But they couldn't if the responsible parent had blocked those channels using appropriate controls available on their Freeview device.

Whatever the argument is around whether they should be blocked by default, the end responsibility is still that of the parent.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

Quite, Ben. This is all much ado about nothing.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

As far as I am aware, Ofcom regulate everything that is broadcast over hardware in the UK or using tv providers based in the UK. As such, any foreign channel broadcasting on Cable, Freeview, Sky or Freesat is subject to that regulation. That's not to say that they regulate any of the hundreds of satellite channels that are not intended for viewing in the UK. They don't.

However, regardless of regulation, the parents of children need to take SOME responsibility for what their children watch. That includes, if necessary, removing any devices that might be used to watch TV at bedtime. After all, whatever they watch, they aren't going to go to sleep if they are watching TV and it is actually important that children get enough sleep.

Re: Non Ofcom regulated porn on VM.
 

Its perfectly easy to prevent access to TV if you spend a bit of effort.
If parents cannot be bothered to do that, then they have nothing to complain about.