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Stephen 25-08-2016 10:53

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Somehow I get the feeling that most of Arthur's OP is not factually accurate and also I am sure I have seen it posted before?

BenMcr 25-08-2016 10:55

Re: The farcical charge
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35855837)
The charge is also levies on paper bags.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...harge-for-bags

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There are some cases where retailers aren’t required to charge you for a bag:
  • paper bags
  • shops in airports, or on board trains, aeroplanes or ships
  • bags which only contain certain items, such as unwrapped food, raw meat and fish where there is a food safety risk, prescription medicines, uncovered blades, seeds, bulbs and flowers, or live fish


Stephen 25-08-2016 10:58

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Ok indeed Arthur already started a thread on the same subject.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...es-page-6.html

Taf 25-08-2016 12:23

Re: The farcical charge
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35855869)
Paper bags are significantly heavier than plastic ones and therefore have a greater environmental cost in their transport, not to mention the tree-felling and bleaching that goes on during manufacture. They are also single use.

And the store glossy magazines? Lots of trees in them...

Chris 25-08-2016 13:09

Re: The farcical charge
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35855900)
And the store glossy magazines? Lots of trees in them...

There's a cost to everything. The issue here is the balance between cost and benefit, and whether something can be done differently. A single use paper bag is a trivial item that can be easily replaced with a reusable one made of polyester weave. A glossy magazine can't be replaced, even by a tablet, given the way it is used.

Mr K 25-08-2016 15:59

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
The charge is long overdue, but there are always those looking to profit. Notice the pound shops are now charging 10p for slightly better bags rather than their usual 5p rubbish, deliberately designed to last for 2 mins. Wonder if all this 10p is going to 'environmental causes'? Once the principle of a charge has been introduced, it's easily increased/added to.

BenMcr 25-08-2016 16:56

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
There is no actual legal requirement for any shop that charges for a bag to pass the charge on to anywhere else.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...s-will-be-used

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How the proceeds will be used
This is not a tax and the money from the charge does not go to the government.

We expect retailers to donate the proceeds of the scheme to good causes, but it is for them to choose what to do, and which causes to support. Retailers will need to report to us about what they do with the money from the charge, and we will publish this information each year.

The charge in Wales has already generated millions of pounds for good causes.
The first report is now available via the above page ( https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rom-the-scheme )

Gary L 25-08-2016 17:11

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35855939)
Notice the pound shops are now charging 10p for slightly better bags rather than their usual 5p rubbish, deliberately designed to last for 2 mins. Wonder if all this 10p is going to 'environmental causes'? Once the principle of a charge has been introduced, it's easily increased/added to.

10p each?!

Do the pound shops sell a box of 100 carrier bags for £1?

Why not?

martyh 25-08-2016 17:32

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
The only money the government is the VAT the rest is mostly donated to charity or good causes

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Marks and Spencer, who started charging for plastic bags in all its stores in 2007, split the revenues from the bags - with half going to a selection of national charities and the other half going to a community cause chosen instore.

In recent years they have supported MacMillan Cancer Support, Breast Cancer Now and the Marine Conservation Society
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Last month, Tesco announced it would donate the expected £30m windfall to 2,500 local projects around the country from parks to sports facilities and community gardens,
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But the legislation does not state that stores must pass on the money raised and employers can deduct costs and training from that revenue before donating
.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a6679811.html


Incidentally only shops with more that 250 employees are forced by law to charge

RichardCoulter 29-08-2016 19:17

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35855947)
There is no actual legal requirement for any shop that charges for a bag to pass the charge on to anywhere else.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...s-will-be-used



The first report is now available via the above page ( https://www.gov.uk/government/public...rom-the-scheme )

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.

Incidentally, Ocado & Morrisons online customers are charged, but any bags returned are credited back to their account ;)

Hom3r 29-08-2016 19:36

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
We bought the heavy duty bags that Tesco & Salisbury's do, they've cost about £3 but will last many years.

Osem 29-08-2016 20:11

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
I must say it's such hard work being forced to either think about taking bags when going shopping or having to cope with the huge cost of buying a couple. I don't know how I've coped without being forced to use the local food bank...

Taf 29-08-2016 20:26

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Tesco have a set a charge for bags for home delivery even if none are used I was told recently.

Hugh 29-08-2016 20:51

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35856570)
Tesco have a set a charge for bags for home delivery even if none are used I was told recently.

Unless the shopper selects 'bagless delivery'.

http://www.tesco.com/groceries/zones...gless-delivery

RichardCoulter 30-08-2016 19:14

Re: Controversial bag charge a success as shoppers will use 6 billion fewer plastic b
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35856570)
Tesco have a set a charge for bags for home delivery even if none are used I was told recently.

They all do this AFAIK, I guess it would be simply too administrative to literally count how many bags each customer uses.


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