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Re: Schools to be made into academies

For personal reasons I can't even come close to being unbiased on this, so will just run with:

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Re: Schools to be made into academies

This is reinstatement of Grammar/Secondary schools except this time round the 'customers' will be segregated by ability to pay rather than academic ability. The trouble with the old system was that too many well-heeled hooray henry's couldn't cut it when competing with the riff-raff so measures were needed to redress a false balance.

Re: Schools to be made into academies

None of the academies in Leeds (or anywhere else I know) charge fees, or take parental income into consideration when admitting pupils, so I am confused by what you posted.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35828002)

None of the academies in Leeds (or anywhere else I know) charge fees, or take parental income into consideration when admitting pupils, so I am confused by what you posted.

Absolutely right - academies are prevented by law from charging and pupil admissions are on the same basis as LA schools.

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In which case, I am completely wrong.

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35828128)

In which case, I am completely wrong.

You're not entirely wrong, 75% of heads who's schools were or were about to become academies thought their school would benefit financially not educationally from the change of status.

This is quite old now but still quite a good read

http://www.newstatesman.com/educatio...ools-academies

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35828128)

In which case, I am completely wrong.

The only difference really is where the funding comes from ,state schools get their funding from local authorities academies get it directly from central government

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35828129)

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35828145)

The only difference really is where the funding comes from ,state schools get their funding from local authorities academies get it directly from central government

Thanks guys :)

Re: Schools to be made into academies

How many head teachers will take cash in hand once all this goes through so that someone can get their child in their local school?

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35828228)

How many head teachers will take cash in hand once all this goes through so that someone can get their child in their local school?

At lot less than MPs & Lords who fiddle expenses

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Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35828228)

How many head teachers will take cash in hand once all this goes through so that someone can get their child in their local school?

Nice unanswerable question/smear...:dozey:

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35828129)

Paywall.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35828237)

Paywall.

Works fine for me and I don't subscribe

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35828129)

Some of the early convertors may have benefited financially but that hasn't been the case for a long time. Academies are now funded per child exactly the same as they would be if the were a Grant Maintained school.

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35827689)

Just look what is coming to light now in regards to the announcement
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35831935

I can see that OFSTED not inspecting a failing school within a given period after a new head has taken over could be a good thing. If any school is that bad, it's going to take time for a new head to work out what is and isn't working, and to change what isn't working.

If the school is inspected while the changes are being made, the inspection may bring a bad result, which could reflect badly on the new head, even at future schools.

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Originally Posted by ntluser (Post 35827692)

Interesting that schools are now going to be required to become academies and to be freed from local authority influence.

I wonder if this applies to public schools like Eton etc.

The state has no input in running them, so I doubt the Government could change them to academies any more than it can change private schools.

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If not, maybe the new academies ought to emulate public schools given that they have such high standards and supply many of our politicians, captains of industry and other leaders.

Mind you, if the academies fail the government will be left with egg on its face as they will be unable to blame local authorities as was the case in the past.

Governments tend to forget that all their manipulation of the education system could be a contributory factor not only in terms of falling standards but also in terms of the difficulty in recruiting and retaining teachers.

It will be interesting to see how this all turns out.

Maggie will correct me here, if I am wrong, but I think that given the right people in charge, State schools could be made to run as well as public schools, but it will take time. Certainly more than one term of government (which is all politicians seem to worry about).

It will also require serious money to be spent (something which neither major political party will ever commit to), and will also require that the government do not meddle.