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There's no shortage of stereotyping around here is there, especially amongst those who routinely turn a blind eye to Labour's very own toffs, would be toffs and plain hypocrites who choose private education for their own kids whilst campaigning to stop anyone else doing the very same thing.

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No cleatly not like thatcher or major, they were a dying breed 5 years ago.

Like some other what?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12282505

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Yawn

Re: More cuts from failing Osborne
 

All getting away from the fact that Osborne's policies have failed. The pain he's inflicted on the country has been for nothing. We're still massively in debt and needing to borrow after 6 years of his medicine. Blaming Labour won't wash any longer. The small recovery we did have he's managed to choke off with his austerity obsession. Someone needs to tell him to leave the stage and take his neighbour with him. Buffoon Boris will be a welcome relief.

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Enough time has passed since Paris so the Police and security services can get another hammering.

More sneaky raids on pension schemes and perhaps an end to the freeze on fuel duty as well.

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Well they can only take from those who have. Yet another disincentive to save for the future...

Private pensions were raided by Brown and so it will continue.

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Like Jeremy Corbyn...

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Jermey Corbyn - a career politican who's never done a real day's work in his life and behaves like a 1970's student union rep. Talk about out of touch.

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Nobody defending Osborne here, even the Tory faithful.... Just the usual Labour are somehow to blame for everything, forever; the records wearing very thin.

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I did say you had to get in early :) Repeat after me .. Tory good .. Labour bad ...

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I think the reality is, regardless of who's in power, if after x no of years, the situations not measurably improved, you blame the Finance guy - in this case Osbourne.

He should be sweating a bit, Camerons not going to give a toss, he's already said he won't be PM for term 3, Ossie boys got his eye on that job though, and it may not happen if he keeps fumbling the finances.

Yes I know we can blame the Chinese or the eskimos or whatever, but the axe drops on the guy in the hot seat, just like it does for an England Manager who's underperformed.

And at this point, it's going to be a bit futile to blame Labour now, people will only stomach so much 'medicine' and then they'll want to see some sort of end to it, that point of evaporating goodwill is fast approaching, Ossie's asscheeks should be clenching - just a little.

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I had high hopes for him but wouldn't go as far as like, oh I see what you're doing, you're attempting to deflect criticism away from the conservative party by bringing labour into it,, I should've guessed it's a tactic you use so often, it's probably more effective on people that have actually voted labour though.

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No, I am saying that people need to be consistent in their criticism....

Strange how it's bad for some to have a privileged upbringing, but not others...

Reverse snobbery

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Repeat after me - consistency good, slanted arguments bad...

Re: More cuts from failing Osborne
 

I am consistent, I dislike most politicians until they prove me wrong. It's not bad to have a privileged upbringing either imo, it's very wrong to use to old boy network for a leg up beyond your abilities though, it's something that has riven this country to its detriment for centuries and it's about to we grew up as a nation and said enough enough

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The extent to which Osborne will be judged harshly will be determined mainly by how well, or badly, the UK is doing compared to the rest of Europe and other countries. Right now we're still growing when much of the EU either isn't or is hardly at all. The final choice at election time will not only be down to how well the electorate believe he's performed but also how credible the alternative is. Right now Labour's looking unelectable and the longer that carries on the less Osborne has to worry about.

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Hugh, you must stop repeating yourself ;) I am just trying to get used to the posting style this forums prefers. I mean, let's face it, trying to debate on here is a struggle ..