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Stop It 12-02-2016 16:20

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35821696)
tbf, 2,600,000 washing machines are sold in the UK each year, so if we conservatively estimate that most last about five years, that's a washing machine population of 13,000,000.

According to the linked stats, there were 1,723 washing machines stated at causing a fire over a period of 39 months, so that's about 530 per year, or around 1 in 24,528, or to put it another way, 0.00004% per year.

Whilst any household fires are bad, the likelihood is very low.

Of course, but as we have seen, 5 million tumble driers (admittedly, some may not be in service now) DO have a fire causing defect and is a problem going back 10 years. Despite this, the rate of failure/fire rate is still low, but that doesn't mean something shouldn't be done.

Besides, I'm not one for complacency. There's way more TV sets, just as many fridges, freezers, and cookers in use in the UK and all of these devices cause less fires yet see comparable amount of use. Considering that washing machines and tumble driers consistently have been the top causes of accidental houses fires, it is high time to look into additional safety measures. After all, it may "only" be 3,000 fires, but the cost of these fires in monetary and human costs is very high indeed.

Taf 12-02-2016 17:49

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
I'm surprised that phone chargers and ecig chargers don't make the top of the chart. And the now infamous "hoverboards".

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35821659)
I've just watched BBC report on all this and they had a guy in who works for an "electrical safety" website.

"Check our database for information and recall information....."

But they didn't give out the web address!

Found it!

http://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org...hing-machines/

techguyone 12-02-2016 19:27

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
Those stats only add up to 72% , wonder what's the monster thing they forgot that accounts for the missing 28%

Mr K 13-02-2016 12:43

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
I wouldn't have a tumble drier in the main house, they've always been a dangerous item. People don't clear out the filters every time like they are supposed to, so sometimes are partly responsible themselves (not that won't stop them blaming or making a claim on someone else).

Jimmy-J 22-02-2017 22:17

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
Update: https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAnedtO?m=en-gb

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Whirlpool orders plug to be pulled on millions of faulty tumble dryers.

Families with exploding tumble dryers in their homes have been told to unplug them immediately in a dramatic u-turn by manufacturer Whirlpool.

The electricals giant caved in to pressure and admitted all affected models including Hotpoint and Indesit dryers should be taken out of service until they can be repaired.
It comes after the Mirror led calls for Whirlpool to take responsibility for 5.3 million dangerous machines sold over a decade and linked to hundreds of fires.

pip08456 22-02-2017 22:43

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35821814)
I wouldn't have a tumble drier in the main house, they've always been a dangerous item. People don't clear out the filters every time like they are supposed to, so sometimes are partly responsible themselves (not that won't stop them blaming or making a claim on someone else).

That is the biggest problem, they just stick wash after wash in and then blame the company when something goes wrong.

That said there should be a sensor to prevent overheating.

denphone 23-02-2017 06:21

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35821814)
I wouldn't have a tumble drier in the main house, they've always been a dangerous item. People don't clear out the filters every time like they are supposed to, so sometimes are partly responsible themselves (not that won't stop them blaming or making a claim on someone else).

We have not got one either praise be to god and that stance will not be changing.

techguyone 23-02-2017 09:16

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
We do, and ours was affected, and was fixed pretty quickly, we do however employ that thing called 'Common Sense'

This means understanding difficult concepts like:

Empty the condenser (if fitted) everytime
Pull out the filter thing and clean it - every time
Empty the bottom filter quarterly

Then the REALLY advanced stuff like:

Don't run it when in bed
Don't run it when not present

Honestly it's not rocket science, it's no more dangerous than any other appliance, and a useful tool. Well so long as the owner isn't one...

Dumbed down Britain in spades creates issues like this, nothing else.

denphone 23-02-2017 09:33

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35887079)
That is the biggest problem, they just stick wash after wash in and then blame the company when something goes wrong.

That said there should be a sensor to prevent overheating.

You would have thought these oh so clever boffins would have thought of that.

1andrew1 23-02-2017 09:47

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35887124)
You would have thought these oh so clever boffins would have thought of that.

I guess that adds cost.

heero_yuy 23-02-2017 09:52

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
Washing lines don't catch fire and are a lot cheaper to run. :)

denphone 23-02-2017 10:01

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35887126)
I guess that adds cost.

Indeed but repairing millions of tumble dryers will incur a pretty high cost as well.

techguyone 23-02-2017 10:30

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35887127)
Washing lines don't catch fire and are a lot cheaper to run. :)

Indeed, but not much cop between Nov & March.

1andrew1 23-02-2017 11:02

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35887134)
Indeed, but not much cop between Nov & March.

Very true :) But you do need to be able to afford a garden. :)

techguyone 23-02-2017 11:19

Re: Five million tumble driers?!
 
I must be lucky I have both shhhh :)


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