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You're out of luck then, you've discovered now how it can't be done. No one's being smart, especially the bold text (which is moderator talk here)

You have 3 very simple choices given that the gap between 'what you want' & 'what is achievable' is. Not withstanding your intractable attitude.

1. Suck it up
2. go ADSL or similar
3. Have no Internet

Good luck.

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EDIT: Post removed. Decided I don't want to get involved in an argument and your obnoxious comments to some members who are actually trying to help and explain things to you.

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What I don't understand here is that if the current Superhub works without a problem in modem mode, which it does as I have first hand experience of this, then how can you tell if you are connecting your router to the VM cable modem or to one that you have fabricated (which ironically is likely to be less reliable, if indeed it works at all)?

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Modem mode is fine on the SH. If you don't like the looks of it you can always hide it away somewhere, even under the floor if that's what you want.

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Still uses twice as much power as a standalone CM ;)

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35813199)

Still uses twice as much power as a standalone CM ;)

I quite like my superhub2ac, it does everything I want, including full 200mbps via wifi... put my proper linksys router in the cupboard! :angel:

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Originally Posted by MagicMavis (Post 35813147)

As above, the point of the SH is so you don't have a separate modem and router solution. If I'm going to use a modem I want a modem, not an unwieldy P.O.S. switched back to just be a modem.

Not that this thread hasn't reached an impasse long ago, but curious what exactly do you imagine is the technical difference between running a Docsis modem and a Superhub in modem mode?

You won't get any better service with a non-VM Docsis modem, even if you could set one up to work on the cable network.

So really the difference comes down to only colour, size (those older modems you might be able to provision are usually larger), orientation (flat vs vertical) and name.

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Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35813205)

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Not that this thread hasn't reached an impasse long ago, but curious what exactly do you imagine is the technical difference between running a Docsis modem and a Superhub in modem mode?

The former doesn't morally contribute to the existence of the "unwieldy P.O.S."

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Originally Posted by MagicMavis (Post 35813147)

My other massive bugbear with these things is the principle. I was an early "lucky recipient" of the SH1. It worked fine as long as I didn't want to use WiFi, especially if - heaven forbid - I wanted to change the SSID, hide it and use my own key. Essentially if I wanted it to actually be a user friendly device in any way.

Agreed, the Superhub 1 as anything but a modem was useless.

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Naturally, I rang VM-CS to complain about how terrible it was and asking to be sent just a modem. They declined.
The reason given was that, and I quote almost directly, VM are sick of having to support 3rd party routers on their network. I naturally pointed out that the equipment they had provided was not fit for purpose. He operator suggested - COMPLETELY MISSING THE IRONY - that if I could just wait a week or two (for the R26 software IIRC) then I would be able to activate modem mode and...use my own router.

Funny how you mention irony... You're asking them for a modem, to do what with... My guess is plug it into a router, yet when they say you will be able to put the superhub into modem mode, thus being no less better or worse than a modem (on paper), then you have a problem with it?

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So, as a basic recap, I have to use their terrible equipment because VM don't want to support 3rd party kit. Yet they accept that their kit is terrible and offer the solution of using 3rd party kit. I can't be the only one to think this is ridiculous?

So VM like a **** ton of other ISP's don't want to spend the money having to train their staff on lots of equipment when they can purchase 3rd party equipment (you didn't think they built it themselves did you?) and put a nice VM logo and stamp on it.

The only logical reason for you argument is having 2 boxes and 2 power supplies in use, which for some is annoying, but other than that, there is no actual benefit what-so-ever of you trying to achieve what you're trying to do. In fact, you'd put yourself into a non-legit setup, now matter which way you try and put it, with less support than you're already moaning about.

If you have some logical reasoning for any of this thread, I'm open to hear it. Otherwise, put it in modem mode, get a router and get on with it.

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Short answer: He doesn't want two boxes.

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35813211)

Short answer: He doesn't want two boxes.

Short answer: You didn't read what he put.

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Sure I did, the whole OP's beef is that he hates the Shub (understandably, I hate mine too) and wants a solution that involves one box, so I'll say it again for the benefit of THICK people. OP doesn't want TWO boxes.

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35813222)

Can't he tape them together?

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35813222)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/12/6.jpg

:D

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35813222)

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I don't want to use modem mode with my own router. I want to use my own modem

He wants his own modem... Did he mention that said modem would be a modem router combo? No. So that would mean what... a 2nd box for a router?

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Naturally, I rang VM-CS to complain about how terrible it was and asking to be sent just a modem.

So he's happy to have a modem that's not the superhub, so once again... what's he plugging that into? No router? No 2nd box. With that logic, what's the difference with just having the superhub in modem mode, negating any need for any 2nd box at all?

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THICK people

At least he's not the only being ironic, which you should maybe think about before trying to besmirch me in front of your pals :dunce: