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Stephen 23-11-2015 12:23

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
'M could loose them but more than likely they won't.

denphone 23-11-2015 12:27

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
A doomsday scenario as several say which is highly unlikely.

nialli 23-11-2015 13:35

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
By the time the VM/Sky deal expires in 2019 the whole TV carriage landscape will have changed dramatically.

denphone 23-11-2015 13:50

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
That remains open to debate...

muppetman11 23-11-2015 13:50

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35809452)
By the time the VM/Sky deal expires in 2019 the whole TV carriage landscape will have changed dramatically.

Being that you have a blog and general interest in this area how do you think it will change ? I'm not disagreeing with you just interested in your views.

DaMac 23-11-2015 14:51

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Probably via a Nowtv style app on Virgin so VM customers can deal directly with sky.

nialli 23-11-2015 15:09

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35809462)
Probably via a Nowtv style app on Virgin so VM customers can deal directly with sky.

You don't even need that: the Now TV box is only £15 and is faster than any hypothetical TiVo Now TV app will be. Why wait?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35809457)
Being that you have a blog and general interest in this area how do you think it will change ? I'm not disagreeing with you just interested in your views.

That's a small question that merits a big answer. I'll post something in the next few days if anyone's interested.

RichardCoulter 23-11-2015 17:05

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35809401)
Richard is technically correct that VM will lose the right to carry these channels. But VM have never used that right anyway - they have always negotiated separately for Sky content.

Agreed, my salient point was that VM will lose the automatic right to show these channels (along with all the other Pay TV providers).

I do feel that, despite this, it is likely that the channels will continue to be shown after the current contractual agreement ends, by way of a new contract being signed.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35809408)
Agreed. Glad to see the moderator has retitled the thread - no point in alarmist headlines when the current contract has four more years to run.

The thread title was correct, however, I have been in contact with a moderator to support a change to avoid any assumptions that these channels would disappear from VM as the likelihood is that they won't.

Basisboy 23-11-2015 17:13

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
I think the threat to Sky and any other PPV operator with the ease of access to the internet streaming services available should be their biggest concern... For punters like me who actually want to pay they want to grab them with both hands regardless of platform.
If you are any doubt, you just need to see Ebay and Android boxes...
Of course quality comes into it ... but price will always be top preference.

OLD BOY 23-11-2015 20:00

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35809452)
By the time the VM/Sky deal expires in 2019 the whole TV carriage landscape will have changed dramatically.

Yes, we'll have Now TV as a streaming service on our cloud based Tivo by then!

denphone 23-11-2015 20:02

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Oh dear more pie in the sky it seems.;)

OLD BOY 23-11-2015 20:05

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35809467)
You don't even need that: the Now TV box is only £15 and is faster than any hypothetical TiVo Now TV app will be. Why wait?[COLOR="Silver"]

For the simple reason that we don't want a plethora of boxes in our lounge!

Let's get all of our streaming services on just one (faster running) Tivo box!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35809556)
Oh dear more pie in the sky it seems.;)

Well, if you say it often enough, Denmark, maybe some day someone will grasp the nettle!

theone2k10 24-11-2015 01:07

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35809552)
Yes, we'll have Now TV as a streaming service on our cloud based Tivo by then!

Nowtv isn't even on Samsung smart tvs and Samsung are a lot bigger than VM also nowtv isn't on firetv either.
Nowtv will never be on vms tivo unless vm lose all the sky channels and that is a huge unless.

OLD BOY 24-11-2015 09:11

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35809624)
Nowtv isn't even on Samsung smart tvs and Samsung are a lot bigger than VM also nowtv isn't on firetv either.
Nowtv will never be on vms tivo unless vm lose all the sky channels and that is a huge unless.

But what is happening now may be a lot different from what will happen in the future.

VM do not make a lot of profit from showing Sky channels, particularly the premium channels. Given the protests over the cost of VM TV, I suspect there will be a change of strategy in the future. VM subscribers to their television packages may well find themselves subscribing direct to Sky via Now TV, with an alternative option available which will include Liberty Global exclusives, such as those available from all3media, which is owned by John Malone's Liberty Global.

http://www.all3media.com/Content/CompaniesPageLan.html

muppetman11 24-11-2015 09:56

Re: Could Virgin lose the right to offer Sky Sports 1 & 2?
 
That sounds a great business plan come to our platform then subscribe direct to Sky , where do you think these up.


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