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horseman 22-11-2015 14:05

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samtayloryork (Post 35809302)
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There are various speed tests available to users some test the network (usually linked to the provider) some are connection. I am using WHICH & BT as a baseline and up 4 others at random at same time to check. Unfortunately it is not always clear what is what.

Unfortunately all the web (and client based) speed tests are potentially inconsistent/inaccurate which is why SamKnows developed hardware based test suite that is used by major UK (and other Worldwide) ISP's, OfCom to produce (within 95% confidence) comparative of "end user" averages by Speed Tier(and other performance metrics) and ISP.

FWIW, here's 2 Brighton users Downstream results(by hour) for Vivid200 tier from 1October2015 to current date of posting:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1ox6zrs7v2...35.33.png?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8vxwvg3872...34.40.png?dl=0

You can derive many reports along with monthly averages and compare these with SK/VM published UK average results each month:
http://store.virginmedia.com/broadband/speeds.html

Obviously these 2 reports only represent a trivially small proportion of the samples that relates to the SK/VM/OfCom stats.

Hugh 22-11-2015 14:07

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samtayloryork (Post 35808687)
Signed up for full Vergin 200; like last time, goes now even slower, lucky to get into the 20's. Can anybody say, when they say fibre connected is that to the street, town or county leval. they have not changed any cabling to/in the house since 20++ YEARS SINCE THE DAYS OF BELL / C&W ????

I have had the same cable to the house since Jones Cable, precursor to Bell Cablemedia, and I am getting 200Mb/s (occasionally dropping to 160-170).

Hopefully, you will get your problem sorted soon.

Ignitionnet 22-11-2015 14:41

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samtayloryork (Post 35809302)
All ready waiting for them to arrange; After the standard No Yes No Yes you maybe have a problem.
There are various speed tests available to users some test the network (usually linked to the provider) some are connection. I am using WHICH & BT as a baseline and up 4 others at random at same time to check. Unfortunately it is not always clear what is what.

No there are no speed tests available to users to test the network. You can only test your own connection, nothing else. The network impacts on your connection, obviously, but you cannot test 'the network'.

If you're running a bunch of speed tests at the same time this may go some way towards explaining the results of the tests.

As would your use of Which as a baseline.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/11/13.png

Pretty good given my connection is ~64Mb/s down and 19Mb/s up.

SimonB79 22-11-2015 15:48

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35809310)
I have had the same cable to the house since Jones Cable, precursor to Bell Cablemedia, and I am getting 200Mb/s (occasionally dropping to 160-170).

Hopefully, you will get your problem sorted soon.

I'm the same! ... get my full 200mbps 24/7 and my cable is 10+ years old! :)

Hugh 22-11-2015 17:57

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
And we're not even neighbours... ;)

pip08456 22-11-2015 19:48

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
I do hope the OP is willing to come back and eat humble pie once a tech has been out to sort out his power levels.

Ranting on about service when there is a known power level problem does nothing.

qasdfdsaq 23-11-2015 10:45

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35809365)
I do hope the OP is willing to come back and eat humble pie once a tech has been out to sort out his power levels.

Ranting on about service when there is a known power level problem does nothing.

What does the scouter say about his power level?

---------- Post added at 11:38 ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35809309)
Unfortunately all the web (and client based) speed tests are potentially inconsistent/inaccurate which is why SamKnows developed hardware based test suite that is used by major UK (and other Worldwide) ISP's, OfCom to produce (within 95% confidence) comparative of "end user" averages by Speed Tier(and other performance metrics) and ISP.

You realise the "SamKnows hardware based test suite" is literally a web and client based speed test running on a very slow Linux computer right?

---------- Post added at 11:45 ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35809313)
If you're running a bunch of speed tests at the same time this may go some way towards explaining the results of the tests.

As would your use of Which as a baseline.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/11/13.png

Pretty good given my connection is ~64Mb/s down and 19Mb/s up.

Man that's terrible.

Oh wait.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/11/14.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/11/15.png

It's worse than terrible.

pip08456 23-11-2015 11:12

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...D/td-p/2967318

qasdfdsaq 23-11-2015 12:19

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35809443)

I skimmed it but can't seem to find his actual power levels, I only see one reply from VM saying they're fine and another saying they're not.

pip08456 23-11-2015 12:27

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35809459)
I skimmed it but can't seem to find his actual power levels, I only see one reply from VM saying they're fine and another saying they're not.

He hasn't posted power levels anywhere. Can only go by the message from the 2nd mod re upstream levels.

qasdfdsaq 23-11-2015 13:54

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Ah, at least I'm not going insane

Ignitionnet 23-11-2015 15:40

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35809476)
Ah, at least I'm not going insane

Bit late for you to go insane, surely?

---------- Post added at 16:40 ---------- Previous post was at 16:35 ----------

Err.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/11/12.png

That's really not too good.

qasdfdsaq 23-11-2015 19:53

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Also comparing against BT ADSL instead of FTTC? What are they smoking.

Kushan 23-11-2015 20:14

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35809594)
Also comparing against BT ADSL instead of FTTC? What are they smoking.

I believe marketing folks prefer cocaine.

samtayloryork 03-12-2015 18:55

Re: Slow and slower narrow band
 
The Virgin chap came, said he had know idea why he was here. took a test and left.
Virgins help line said he was only looking.
Previously their help line said change your hub to computer cable from CAT5 To CAT6 which was promptly done. (no effect as we don't get the connection speed)
Yet they insist that the 20+ year bits to the Hub are all OK when they installed the Hub they never even changed the bit in the house.
One suspects Virgin are just Lazy or running a VW Scam.
Are they advertising there network speed or customer connectionspeed.
Also there sugest speed recording app only recorded into the low 20 today, all a bit fishy.
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