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Just for accuracy, Sky don't have 4K - they will have it early 2016.

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Mmm. That's what they said about 3D and where is that now? Unless you have a monster TV or the vision acuity of an eagle most peeps will never tell the difference over HD. Even then how good it is will depend upon how much bandwidth is allocated to a channel to support a decent bit rate. Many (all?) current HD channels are quite woeful in this respect as the moment the picture is panned or zoomed all detail is lost or pixelated even on premium channels.

In past times I lost count of the number of people that had not set their box's SCART output to component video for the crispest picture and were still using the default composite. :(

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I'd say talktalk are last they don't even have HD yet.

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I am sure that I posted something similar to this the other year or 2 ago from Cisco?

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I recently spoke to someone at VM and they were adamant the Tivo could output 4K in the future. I'm guessing he's just another member of CS talking nonsense?

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Sky Q video

https://youtu.be/h_nWe39VF_0

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They have.
they're taking on more canvassers to knock on peoples doors getting them to sign up and enter into a contract with them before they get to find out about Sky.

and then when you say you're with Sky they say "what you with Sky for? Virgin's the best in the world!"

desperate canvassers.

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TalkTalk has some PSB channels in HD and some catch-up and on-demand content too. But it's a laggard on not having its pay-tv channels in HD.

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I think tv player are one to watch they are offering incredible value at the moment £4.99p/m for 25 premium channels which include the uktv channels and discovery.

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Yep, i was very impressed with that offering if i ditch paytv (again) :)

OT

Reading the DM article it says it's completely separate to the Satellite offering and has 4 recordable tuners. Will it be fibre customers only then?

I thunk the clue is in the 'super premium' tagline though, gotta cost a fortune for early adopters.

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Sky Q does look very good but it does all depend on price, will keep an eye open for when the pricing is announced.

Personally I want to see what VM have in the pipeline before making a decision on my beloved TiVo

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Tivo should and could have been so much more than it had ended up. Slow and clunky, I've had it from the start, but several updates and new boxes later, it' still not that great. Shame really. Changes are a coming!, for the first time, i do expect to be leaving VM for my TV offering early next year. I'm cutting the cord(or cable). UNless VM pull something magical out of the box! I think they have become complacent and lazy.

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I don't have a 4k tv and I think the take up will generally be quite slow. A lot of people who wanted flat screen TV's have bought them and the lack of currently available 4k content means you'd have to be very keen on it to adopt early. The result will be that there won't be a rush to produce lots of 4k content meaning that you'll have a never ending circle of low output and low take up, each perpetuating the other.

I've just gone to BT who have a 4k sport channel. I wanted the biggest capacity hard drive so I have their uhd box and it came with a list of compatible 4k tv's. What I didn't realise was that there is still no industry standard for 4k, which means that some who bought early 4k tv's and then waited patiently for content to arrive can't actually use them to access the only current linear channel. That's not going to help things along.

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I certainly think VM are at risk of losing out on the one element of TV they had an advantage on and is essential for our house i.e. recording multiple programmes at once with the extra tuners, so we build up our version of box sets and watch later e.g. just watched Scorpion series 1 so the adverts were for Christmas 2014 at the start!). Ideally I would want a minimum of 3 tuners with a 4th to watch live TV so 1 short for current Tivo box, as it happens several time a week where we are recording 3 programmes on different channels so if you want to have some buffer at start and end, all tuners are used up during the buffer period. With the use of +1 channels I manage to get around with 3 complete programmes being recorded at the same time, just a pain if you want to keep some buffer time on recordings. So I need more flexibility and Sky Q will resolve that for us. Unless there is a new Tivo box coming out to address, I will be moving to Sky once my contract ends. But there is some time to go with my contract so time for VM to respond with a new Tivo box and it better be quicker as well!!

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I've read a number of the reviews (more announcements, really) of the forthcoming Sky Q box and I must admit the more I read the more I am impressed. Depending on what Virgin Media come up with to match it, including pricing, I will be seriously thinking of moving over to Sky next year. One of the reviews - I can't remember which one - mentions that the box has an HDMI 'in' connection. Sky refused to comment why except to say it's for the future. Anyone care to speculate what this might be for?