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ianch99

04-09-2015 10:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35796517)

They could soon turn that around by not paying for absences for a 'no specified' sickness absence.

All staff ought to be obliged to speak to an occupational health nurse when reporting sick, to receive information and guidance on their symptoms. The first three days of sickness should be unpaid.

That package of measures, together with a proper system to monitor and limit the number of short term absences before action is taken will resolve this problem.

Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen without government intervention of some sort because NHS Human Resources departments are too weak.

Mmmm.. so we've added "NHS workers are skivers" in addition to the "poor are scoungers" .. nice

Ramrod

04-09-2015 11:44

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Originally Posted by Escapee (Post 35796487)

My previous gf was a nurse, had been in the position about 3 years, very hard working and never off sick. She was called into the office one day (This was 10 years ago) and asked why she hadn't used any sick days, she was then told that she needed to take some of these sick days.

It appears that sick day entitlement was treated like additional holidays by most nurses in that trust, and someone not taking them reflected badly on the others.

Astounding.....:(

Osem	08-09-2015 08:41

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I prescribe a dose of self employment to treat absence due to sickness, especially when the reasons are unspecified. It's highly effective.

Chrysalis

08-09-2015 20:05

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I am all for improving accomodation costs and parking costs, but the nhs giving out pay increases is the last thing they can afford at the moment, and last I checked the current levels of pay are quite good anyway.
https://www.rcn.org.uk/support/pay_a...-rates-2015-16

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The minimum starting salary for a registered nurse is £21,692. To calculate your hourly rate divide your annual basic salary by 52.14 and then by 37.5.

Millions of people would love a 21k salary.

Hugh	08-09-2015 20:43

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But would they be willing to undertake a 3 year course to get it?

Chrysalis

08-09-2015 23:21

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no idea, but the wage is reasonable regardless.

jonbxx

09-09-2015 08:33

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Meh, seems at or slightly below average for graduates according to this - http://www.graduates.co.uk/graduate-...es-in-2013-14/

peanut

09-09-2015 08:41

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Nurses know full well what the wages are before they sign up. Then as soon as they qualify they moan about it. The worse thing they did was to introduce the nursing degree.

ianch99

09-09-2015 09:53

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35797177)

Although this is not far off the incoming National Living Wage which is £14,227 rising to £17,784 in 4 years time. 21K does not seem unreasonable for work they do ..

Osem	09-09-2015 10:10

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35797225)

Nurses know full well what the wages are before they sign up. Then as soon as they qualify they moan about it. The worse thing they did was to introduce the nursing degree.

I tend to agree. Of course caring and academic qualifications aren't mutually exclusive but there's no doubt in my mind that something has been lost when it comes to the basics of caring within the NHS.

Mr K	09-09-2015 11:17

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Zumba classes my backside...

Genuine stress is underestimated and can be a killer, either suddenly or gradually. Zumba won't cure it, changing working practices, decent pay rates and being valued for the job they do would help. Trained nurses in particular have an absurdly low pay rate given the amount of responsibility they have; they are now carrying out procedures which only Dr's used to do and leading clinics . Being a woman dominated profession and not going on strike hasn't helped. They have been taken advantage of by successive governments and taken for granted by the public. No wonder they are stressed and there are recruitment problems.

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