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Ignitionnet

30-07-2015 15:29

Re: Upload Limit

I'm saying ISPs allocate, at the high end, 1Mb/s per customer, and half that or less at the low end.

Nothing about contention ratios.

horseman

30-07-2015 15:37

Re: Upload Limit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35791181)

I'm saying ISPs allocate, at the high end, 1Mb/s per customer, and half that or less at the low end.

Nothing about contention ratios.

I think your comment about penis's pricked his thought patterns..... and quite understandably has taken it personally! :(

qasdfdsaq

30-07-2015 15:39

Re: Upload Limit

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35791181)

I'm saying ISPs allocate, at the high end, 1Mb/s per customer, and half that or less at the low end.

Nothing about contention ratios.

Well 1Mbps allocation per 152Mbps customer gives a contention ratio.

Still, a lot better than the 64k-128k per customer major ISPs were allocating per customer ten years ago.

8-16x increase in design capacity with a 10-20x increase in speed isn't too bad.

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Originally Posted by horseman (Post 35791187)

I think your comment about penis's pricked his thought patterns..... and quite understandably has taken it personally! :(

:sleep:

Leave my penis out of this.

Chrysalis

30-07-2015 18:32

Re: Upload Limit

I see it as a give and take situation.

A isp gets benefits for been able to advertise unlimited usage 24/7 with no slowdowns, some isps do just that.

Obviously the downside of making those claims is of course they will have heavy users on their networks, and my opinion is those isp's have to eat the cost or change what they offering. The odd heavy user will lose money, but thats made up by the many users who have a connection idle or close to idle the vast majority of the time.

How high a contention ratio needs to be for it to be noticeable is obviously an ever changing figure and probably varies from one location to the next, but it is interesting to see from ignition's figures an estimated level of current contention ratio levels.

I cant help feel tho BT's recent network issues are timed to when they started spending silly money on football rights, so it wouldnt surprise me if there was budget cuts to help pay for those rights.

AbyssUnderground

04-08-2015 13:06

Re: Upload Limit

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35791159)

No ISP can sustain that level of usage if too many customers do it. The services are cheap because they are oversubscribed.

BT do actually have problems, incidentally, and their infrastructure wasn't built to cope. Earlier this year they had 15% of their network running outside of planned levels :)

I have had 3 sets of capacity issues with my FTTC since last year, one at a BT metro node, one on an SVLAN running from this exchange, and one due to congestion at BT's 21CN core sites.

If every ISP had to sell only what they could guarantee we'd all be paying what we are now for 500k - 1Mb.

I know what you're saying but it's a completely unrealistic argument.

What I meant by built to cope was that it was built to cope with a number of users going made with the rest not. That's why I've always got full speed out of my connection bar the odd time when a network issue has existed and it's been pitifully slow.

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