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Sirius 21-06-2015 09:26

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35784078)
No, it's off when we go to bed or go out, and is very rarely in wifi mode anyway. So would our wifi being off be an indication to thieves that the house may be empty?

So if you turn off your hub now they will know when your in bed for instance or maybe out. This is no big deal just opt out.

qasdfdsaq 22-06-2015 02:54

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by blackthorn (Post 35784195)
Is this going to be only for those on Virgin mobile ?

It's only for those on Virgin immobile.

Kushan 22-06-2015 12:59

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35784102)
:rofl:

I run my hub in modem mode so the wifi will be off anyway. No chance of ne'er-do-wells using my connection for nefarious purposes.

It sounds like virgin are doing this "properly". That is, the wireless connection will be dishing out completely independent IP's than that of your private connection. Should someone use it for nefarious deeds, it wouldn't ever come back to you. No different to BT today.

Some questions do remain:
  • Will this work if you are in modem mode?
  • If not, will this automatically opt me out?
  • Will this affect the wireless ability of the hubs, as presumably it's running a "Guest" network alongside the primary network?
  • What speeds will this give users? Virgin are capable of offering a substantially fast service with the way this is designed.

qasdfdsaq 22-06-2015 19:07

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35784396)
It sounds like virgin are doing this "properly". That is, the wireless connection will be dishing out completely independent IP's than that of your private connection. Should someone use it for nefarious deeds, it wouldn't ever come back to you. No different to BT today.

Yes, indeed. I don't believe any commercial ISP has every done it non-"properly", the only ones that share the connection owner's IP tend to be crowdsourced solutions like the one FON grew out of.

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Some questions do remain:
  • Will this work if you are in modem mode?

  • Interesting point. It's actually theoretically possible

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  • If not, will this automatically opt me out?
  • Probably not. The amount of work required to develop a system to tell if you're running in modem mode or not is not worth the effort.

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  • Will this affect the wireless ability of the hubs, as presumably it's running a "Guest" network alongside the primary network?
  • What wireless ability? :p:

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  • What speeds will this give users? Virgin are capable of offering a substantially fast service with the way this is designed.
Also a good point. I'd expect something in the range of 10-20Mbps. But that's just my guess. It'll almost certainly be less than 50.

muppetman11 22-06-2015 19:21

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
I've connected to my own BT HH 5 via the BT-Wifi-with-Fon and ran a speed test which gave me 20mbps download.

I'm on Infinity 2 and synced at full speed.

Kushan 22-06-2015 20:21

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35784488)
What wireless ability? :p:

Exactly, unless it's limited to SH2's only, it's going to cripple the performance of a device that already had crippling performance. Hopefully the SH3+ will have dedicated hardware for it (along with the VoIP stuff - which, incidentally, a Virgin Engineer called "VoF" the other day...).

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35784488)
Also a good point. I'd expect something in the range of 10-20Mbps. But that's just my guess. It'll almost certainly be less than 50.

It's possible it'll be dependant on which package you have. Realistically, Virgin could genuinely go for a sort of "Your broadband anywhere" thing where you get the same speeds on the guest networks as you do at home. Probably overkill though. Still, 20meg if they push it country wide would be a nice little bonus. 50 would be fantastic.

Skie 22-06-2015 22:09

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
Oooh, awesome. Hopefully the 'guest' network will have a decent amount of bandwidth available, making it more useful than BT's efforts.

johnathome 23-06-2015 02:10

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35784353)
It's only for those on Virgin immobile.

I see what you did there :)

But the question is still valid. I had a quick google and found an article about this from last year, VM first mooted this in 2011 but shelved the idea, it was for VM mobile customers only.
http://www.choose.net/media/guide/ne...ape-wi-fi.html

Will VM BB customers be able to use this and are there any other areas that are live?

qasdfdsaq 23-06-2015 05:52

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35784530)

It's possible it'll be dependant on which package you have. Realistically, Virgin could genuinely go for a sort of "Your broadband anywhere" thing where you get the same speeds on the guest networks as you do at home.

That would be wayyyy too complicated.

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35784627)
Will VM BB customers be able to use this and are there any other areas that are live?

As I already said, this is only for VM BB customers.

johnathome 24-06-2015 00:31

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35784630)
That would be wayyyy too complicated.

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As I already said, this is only for VM BB customers.

Is this live anywhere else as a google doesn't turn up anything?

DJSADERS 24-06-2015 23:24

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
nope Thames Valley is the testing network so won't be anywhere until they are happy to roll it out

Ignitionnet 27-06-2015 16:50

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
If you go to http://whatismyip.com and see cpcxx-rdng in there for your reverse DNS you're going to be in this trial.

DJSADERS 14-07-2015 20:45

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
Slight update...


It lauches on Aug 5th now

You need the Android / IOS app to connect to the system (Wifi Sharing App)

Both Cable and VM Mobile customers are able to make use of this.

TAZMANUK 14-07-2015 22:09

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
Couldn't they just put a few shubs in the cabinets and do network from them, on my hub signal just gets to the garden that's it

qasdfdsaq 14-07-2015 22:51

Re: Virgin Media Hot Spots Coming to Thames Valley Network July 20th
 
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Originally Posted by TAZMANUK (Post 35788441)
Couldn't they just put a few shubs in the cabinets and do network from them, on my hub signal just gets to the garden that's it

If they were putting anything in cabinets it won't be Superhubs.


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