Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

What she's trying - and failing spectacularly - to say is generally women and BME (Black and minority ethnic) are rarely/never in positions to oppress, so because in her view sexism and racism is only used for the purpose of oppression she and her ilk can never be guilty of it.

In my last exchange with her I pointed out Mugabe and his 'land grab' efforts from white farmers a few years back, honestly I thought her reaction was for entertainment and performance purposes. She went off on one like a woman possessed and some of her followers joined in, they have the attitude of "If you're not 100% with us you're 100% against us". It was getting harder and harder to resist the urge to deliberately wind her up but fortunately I was kicked out of the group.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Indeed, happened to someone I was at school with

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4460778.stm

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Yes you see people like this employ the faux outrage tactic because they believe it only strengthens their argument. They also tend to equate all sorts of issues which are not linked and attach to them all sorts of hyperbole . It's why these people routinely use words like 'traumatised', 'victimised', 'abused' in connection with events which are actually relatively trivial. In order to pursue their agenda they grossly exaggerate and conflate issues and actually behave in a manner which is not dissimilar to those they say they despise. In their minds anything other that the most vehement opposition works not irrespective of how justified that might be. That's why we routinely hear about people being 'traumatised' by events that once upon a time wouldn't have even made the news.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

I think the argument would be to get a very good lawyer

Ordinary polis can't be relied upon to know/implement the law properly IMO.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Should the British whites not call our selves African White Britains in future - I just hate that phrase e.g. African American, etc.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Oh dear I seems to be getting worse for this poor woman. I'm sure it's all a sexist, racist plot perpetrated by non-ethnic minority women though...


http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/12..._/?ref=mr&lp=7

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Yes!
that's one of the roots of it all.

they say that it's about achievement why they use the colour.
(here we go. it's the them and us again)
so if we used the White one. they'll say we're either being racist and all the rest that we could say about them having a non white gang. but we don't.

absolutely bonkers it all is.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Student unions politics is nuts. It's a playground for aspirating future Labour politicians and fringe activists. Their motions and debates rarely resonate with the wider student body who let them get on with it. Honestly very few students care about these Unions and even the politically motivated students will largely get involved elsewhere.

I remember my Uni had nonsense elections for it and the only vote I remember was when they tried to ban for Coca-Cola on campus for various stupid reasons I cannot remember. Like 99% of the rest of the student body I didn't vote but they did fail to get it passed, I assume 3 or 4 coca-cola addicts turned up and had a majority to vote them done.

They are often bizarrely illiberal as well. Chris mentioned the 'no-platform' policy but this has grown to the stage where they will interrupt and protest speakers they don't like who've been invited by other groups. I don't really have a problem with the Union itself deciding not to invite people to their own private platform - it's their choice - but preventing others from speaking in environments that are nothing to do with you is pretty objectionable behaviour.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

It was the same at my uni - a militant bunch of idiots who spent far more time causing trouble than studying. Maybe that's why certain unions think it's great to strike on the basis of a paltry turn out. ;)

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Wouldn't bother giving these people the attention really. I certainly didn't at uni. It's a world detached from reality. They don't represent the students and the only reason students join is the discount card you get. This case is even bizarre by the already bizarre standards of student unions!

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Your comment brought back distant memories of the LSE Riots! Lots of student unrest there in the 60's, unfortunately I'm old enough to remember the news!

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Hang on, never mind a "vote of no confidence", why is she not being arrested for inciting racial hatred for the "kill all white men" comment? The fact it was supposedly an in-joke makes no difference at all.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Perhaps because no one has made a complaint to them...

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

Considering that all humans are descended from the hominids that came out of Africa, then yes, we are equally able to call ourselves African-British.

Re: Ethnic minority women can't be racist or sexist.
 

The thing is, there you go introducing facts into an argument.

People are people, and regardless of their colour, gender or any other physical descriptor you care to mention, they can be offensive to other people.

Regarding this lady. I do not know what it's like, but I have a friend who was born in Belgium to a Pakistani father and Belgian mother, is a lady and is therefore arguably an ethnic minority. She also used to work for Goldsmiths and reckons that Goldsmiths is an awful place to work because of things like this.

---------- Post added at 16:56 ---------- Previous post was at 16:40 ----------

From the article:
From the OED:
No mention of privilege there. It just mentions the idea of belief that either your race is superior or others inferior to yours.

Again, no mention of privilege, just discrimination based on gender.

No, going on those ACTUAL DEFINITIONS, I would argue she is racist because she is making assumptions about white people based purely on the fact they are white. I would argue that she is sexist because she is making assumptions about men based purely on the fact they are men. Who benefits (assuming anyone does) is irrelevant.

Personally, I try and avoid making judgments on people based purely on their race or gender. I make judgements on people based on how they act toward me.