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Osem 10-05-2015 10:14
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
IMHO, Umunna has the potential to be another Bliar - a triumph of presentation over substance who looks good in a suit. He also ticks the obvious cultural/ethnic minority boxes which Labour are obsessed with. There's no doubt in my mind that he'd be the PR guru's choice but if Labour are going to try to appeal to the ordinary man, it'd be nice if their leader at least resembled one of them and could command at least some respect for getting his/her hands dirty in the real world.

martyh 10-05-2015 10:17
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35776861)
Thing with Jarvis is just that he seems to look and carry himself completely different from the identikit politicians after Blair. As I mentioned before the fact he has had a distinguished career in the armed forces, on the front lines as well, does him no harm at all.

Kendall is another one who is undoubtedly a centrist (a.k.a Blairite) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liz_Kendall
Just finished reading this by Chukka and he certainly seems to know which way Labour need to go, and for me he hits the nail on the head by saying that Labour by targeting the low paid/poor and the wealthy they have completely ignored and alienated the vast majority of those voters in the middle

papa smurf 10-05-2015 10:23
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35776863)
Just finished reading this by Chukka and he certainly seems to know which way Labour need to go, and for me he hits the nail on the head by saying that Labour by targeting the low paid/poor and the wealthy they have completely ignored and alienated the vast majority of those voters in the middle
he was on the Andrew marr show this morning he seem to be an honest well meaning bloke ,do political parties vote for honest well meaning folk to lead them ?

denphone 10-05-2015 10:25
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35776862)
IMHO, Umunna has the potential to be another Bliar - a triumph of presentation over substance who looks good in a suit. He also ticks the obvious cultural/ethnic minority boxes which Labour are obsessed with. There's no doubt in my mind that he'd be the PR guru's choice but if Labour are going to try to appeal to the ordinary man, it'd be nice if their leader at least resembled one of them and could command at least some respect for getting his/her hands dirty in the real world.
Whether people agree with Blair or not he like Thatcher won 3 elections and not many have done that.

martyh 10-05-2015 10:28
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35776865)
he was on the Andrew marr show this morning he seem to be an honest well meaning bloke ,do political parties vote for honest well meaning folk to lead them ?
I think honest well meaning leaders tend to go the way of Milliband and Clegg

Osem 10-05-2015 10:32
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35776863)
Just finished reading this by Chukka and he certainly seems to know which way Labour need to go, and for me he hits the nail on the head by saying that Labour by targeting the low paid/poor and the wealthy they have completely ignored and alienated the vast majority of those voters in the middle
Labour haven't done all that much for the white, indigenous working class which is why UKIP took so many of their votes. Bliar too said a lot of stuff which sounded great - he just didn't deliver it and given his track record you have to wonder how much of it was sincere and how much was weasel words.

IMHO Umunna is a slimmer, younger version of Keith Vaz.

martyh 10-05-2015 10:40
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35776868)
Labour haven't done all that much for the white, indigenous working class which is why UKIP took so many of their votes. Bliar too said a lot of stuff which sounded great - he just didn't deliver it and given his track record you have to wonder how much of it was sincere and how much was weasel words.

IMHO Umunna is a slimmer, younger version of Keith Vaz.
This is the problem that Labour have and whoever they elect as leader will have to portray the ability and will to deliver what they say they will deliver .Blairs legacy to Labour party is not something to be proud of and the party will suffer for a few more elections I feel

Hom3r 10-05-2015 13:16
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Will Chuka Umanna name go against him though?

Even though he is London born, a minority will think "why would I vote for a foreigner?"

Sirius 10-05-2015 13:18
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
I don't care who it is as long as he's not another lying git like Bliar

Derek 10-05-2015 13:21
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35776890)
I don't care who it is as long as he's not another lying git like Bliar
Well he is a politician so that's highly likely.

Sirius 10-05-2015 13:48
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35776892)
Well he is a politician so that's highly likely.
Well i did not want to put lying **** bag but as you pointed out they all lie i need to elaborate a bit. :D

Chris 10-05-2015 13:58
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
Liz Kendall has just been on Sunday Politics. She's throwing her hat in apparently.

heero_yuy 10-05-2015 13:58
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
Well if they pick somebody who looks weird they can kiss goodbye to power for a long time. People don't vote for weirdos: Foot, Kinnock, Miliband. QED

Chris 10-05-2015 13:59
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35776908)
Well if they pick somebody who looks weird they can kiss goodbye to power for a long time. People don't vote for weirdos: Foot, Kinnock, Miliband. QED
Ms Kendall is quite easy on the eye. Her biggest problem will be that the so-called progressive Labour Party has a glass ceiling that's almost bullet proof.

devilincarnate 10-05-2015 16:09
Re: Who will lead the Labour Party?
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35776861)
Thing with Jarvis is just that he seems to look and carry himself completely different from the identikit politicians after Blair. As I mentioned before the fact he has had a distinguished career in the armed forces, on the front lines as well, does him no harm at all
He is different as he is our local MP and you see him walking around the town with his suit on carrying his rucksack


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