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v0id 22-02-2015 20:05

Re: Half of Ukip voters say they are prejudiced against people of other races.
 
http://i.imgur.com/pbmiGbU.jpg :D

Osem 22-02-2015 20:05

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35760829)
Several of my "minority group" friends are all saying they will vote UKIP because they are "sick of the European economic migrants and those who are coming here from Africa via Europe". Racist? Possibly. Realist? Probably.

Yup and we know loads of C & E Europeans who are vehemently opposed to third world immigration into the UK in particular. Is that a surprise? If you see how people from the third world are treated in those parts of Europe it's not exactly a surprise. If you understand how they fear being undercut by others it's not a surprise either. The only thing which is a surprise is that the know it all Eurocrats and open borders brigade apparently didn't factor that into any of their 'we'll all live happily ever after' equations.

TheDaddy 22-02-2015 20:06

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35760809)
Nearly all the threads on UKIP here emanate from the OP - I wonder why? :D

Not bad for a party which has never been in power and probably never will.

Spoken like a true kipper, Mr A and everyone else are against the party, conveniently forgetting, ignoring, not bothering to check that he attacks Dave, Tony, Ed, Gideon etc pretty much equally, not your fault osem, its a trait that permeates the party like a cancer and the party will need to cut it out if they want to play politics with the big boys, they'll need to accept that they will be held accountable for things they and their supporters say and do just like the other parties and when they finally do, guess what, they'll be like all the other parties

papa smurf 22-02-2015 20:19

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woo hoo another interesting ukip thread -i can't wait for tomorrows equally interesting ukip thread .:woot:

i think this ukip bashing is probably sponsored by the bum twitching party

Osem 22-02-2015 20:33

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35760842)
woo hoo another interesting ukip thread -i can't wait for tomorrows equally interesting ukip thread .:woot:

i think this ukip bashing is probably sponsored by the bum twitching party

and they have a very small membership... :D

I'm waiting for forthcoming threads from the same source - all manner of 'interesting' stuff will be revealed I'm sure, like:

"95% of UKIP voters drink milk"
"UKIP Councillor caught buying white bin bags"
"Nigel Farage never drinks Guinness"
"UKIP Councillor on night out chooses fish & chips over kebab"

:D

Hugh 22-02-2015 20:50

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Interesting, yet amusing, viewpoint.

When other parties are criticised, they are seen as "fair game" - anyone points out anything detrimental against St Nigel and his acolytes, it's "UKIP bashing".........

Osem 22-02-2015 21:55

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35760849)
Interesting, yet amusing, viewpoint.

When other parties are criticised, they are seen as "fair game" - anyone points out anything detrimental against St Nigel and his acolytes, it's "UKIP bashing".........

Well that was the intention ;) However, not really the point I was making. The point is that nearly all this stuff is trivial when compared to what those who wield the real power have been up to for decades. For a party of losers, lunatics and no hopers, UKIP certainly do attract lots of attention amongst a few people around here. I can't think why if they're not a threat... ;)

Just for the record and in case some people don't know, I won't be voting Labour in the near (or distant) future. I believe we do need an EU referendum and tend to believe Cameron will deliver on that if elected. I will vote strategically at the next election for what I feel is the least worst option at the time.

Ramrod 22-02-2015 22:05

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imo....It's normal to be racist. It's a evolutionary survival trait to be suspicious of others from outside our 'tribe' Be they black, white or green.
Deal with it.

Damien 23-02-2015 06:17

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35760864)
imo....It's normal to be racist. It's a evolutionary survival trait to be suspicious of others from outside our 'tribe' Be they black, white or green.
Deal with it.

People have been using dodgy evolutionary arguments to justify racism for decades. Ultimately however going back to when we were cavemen shows how out of place racism should be in civilised society.

Thankfully I would say that majority of people will not just accept it. Even this poll shows that it remains a minority. It's not normal and people will not just 'deal with it.

Hugh 23-02-2015 08:39

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35760864)
imo....It's normal to be racist. It's a evolutionary survival trait to be suspicious of others from outside our 'tribe' Be they black, white or green.
Deal with it.

You appear to be confusing stereotyping with prejudice, discrimination, and racism....

Ramrod 23-02-2015 12:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35760910)
You appear to be confusing stereotyping with prejudice, discrimination, and racism....

I suspect it's all part of the same continuum :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35760884)
Ultimately however going back to when we were cavemen shows how out of place racism should be in civilised society.

I'm not sure that we are all that far removed from cavemen. You can dress us in shoes and clothes and put a smartphone in our hands but that doesn't really change our baseline reactions and mentality if the sh*t hits the fan.

Ignitionnet 23-02-2015 18:13

Re: Half of Ukip voters say they are prejudiced against people of other races.
 
A whole bunch of people do I'm sure harbour racist views. The question is whether the more sensible and reasonable, conscious parts of their brains kick in and control their attitude and actions before they do anything.

In an ideal world no-one would hold racist views but the best we can hope for is that no-one acts on them, and no-one suffers prejudice because of their race.

Ramrod 23-02-2015 20:36

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35761060)
A whole bunch of people do I'm sure harbour racist views. The question is whether the more sensible and reasonable, conscious parts of their brains kick in and control their attitude and actions before they do anything.

Well put. It's almost like you have first hand experience of this ;)

Osem 24-02-2015 07:06

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This is common sense isn't it? It's remarkable to me that anyone can seriously believe that our base instincts are so far removed from the distant past when there are myriad examples of the most grotesque and abhorrent treatment of fellow human beings all around the globe, based on nothing more than 'difference' whether colour, race, religion, tribe, gang or creed. How's that for being accepting, open and politically correct 21st C. homo sapiens then?

Ignitionnet 24-02-2015 07:31

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35761099)
Well put. It's almost like you have first hand experience of this ;)

I'm only human. I was also brought up in a quite racist household which didn't help.


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