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Ignitionnet 01-02-2015 22:26

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756659)
Yes they did ,Zeus flooded the world after men got fire from Prometheus who promply nailed to side of a mountain and eaten by birds every day.In actual fact every religion seems to have a flood punishing man for his wickedness

Shows I need to read my Greek and Roman mythology again!

Thank you for the correction.

Regarding your last sentence: purely coincidence or stolen from the Judeo-Christian, naturally.

Pierre 01-02-2015 22:27

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756659)
In actual fact every religion seems to have a flood punishing man for his wickedness

Funny that isn't it?

Almost as if they are variations on a theme or borrowed bits of each other, or because one is newer than the others, it may have plundered other older religions.

Hom3r 01-02-2015 22:29

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
I agree with him, 100%.

alanbjames 01-02-2015 22:30

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
I liked this also where Stephen Fry spoke on why the Catholic Church is NOT a power for good throughout the world....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1xvdZMC10

Chris 01-02-2015 22:32

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35756660)
Shows I need to read my Greek and Roman mythology again!

Thank you for the correction.

Regarding your last sentence: purely coincidence or stolen from the Judeo-Christian, naturally.

Flood myths are common. Ancient Baylon had one. The Chinese have more than one.

They may have borrowed one from another, or they may all have their basis in truth.

papa smurf 01-02-2015 22:32

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756661)
Funny that isn't it?

Almost as if they are variations on a theme or borrowed bits of each other, or because one is newer than the others, it may have plundered other older religions.

that's shocking God should send a flood for that .

martyh 01-02-2015 22:35

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35756660)
Shows I need to read my Greek and Roman mythology again!

Thank you for the correction.

Regarding your last sentence: purely coincidence or stolen from the Judeo-Christian, naturally.

Given that most religions and cultures have a flood myth i would say that it was more coincidence or even a real cataclysmic event written into religions that where around in the same period because primitive man couldn't explain the events .A documentary i saw a few years back explained the greek flood myth as the flooding of the mediteranean sea which seemed to have geological evidence to back it up

Ignitionnet 01-02-2015 22:44

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35756664)
Flood myths are common. Ancient Baylon had one. The Chinese have more than one.

They may have borrowed one from another, or they may all have their basis in truth.

Sadly there's no physical evidence of a global flood event so this seems unlikely. 'Scientists' who've claimed as such are given rather short shrift.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756666)
A documentary i saw a few years back explained the greek flood myth as the flooding of the mediteranean sea which seemed to have geological evidence to back it up

Yeah I've seen a few bits on that and a swift Google is useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_S...uge_hypothesis
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/~billr/...al_MG_1997.pdf
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...-no-water.html

I have some light reading for later, which will be handled with extreme caution - that book is very good but also very old. Haven't read it since I was in my very early teens.

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alanbjames 01-02-2015 22:46

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I remember asking a Priest at a friends wedding once about the Story of Noah climbing the mountain and having a conversation with a burning bush and whether he believed the story or not. He gave me a look that could kill and walked away from me without a word.

What i find funny about religions is they change their rules to fit the day and kind of whats in fashion, such as Catholics now can divorce where before it was banned. Also the fact some catholics now believe that the story of Adam and Eve never happened because of scientific proof where as in the years past Scientists would have been mocked and slammed for questioning the church and its teachings.

martyh 01-02-2015 22:55

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35756669)
I remember asking a Priest at a friends wedding once about the Story of Noah climbing the mountain and having a conversation with a burning bush and whether he believed the story or not. He gave me a look that could kill and walked away from me without a word.

What i find funny about religions is they change their rules to fit the day and kind of whats in fashion, such as Catholics now can divorce where before it was banned. Also the fact some catholics now believe that the story of Adam and Eve never happened because of scientific proof where as in the years past Scientists would have been mocked and slammed for questioning the church and its teachings.

That would be Moses not Noah :D

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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35756669)
, such as Catholics now can divorce where before it was banned. .

I don't believe they can at least in the eyes of the church

Gary L 01-02-2015 23:01

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
Yeh. Noah built the boat and gathered all the animals from around the world. they had to fly some animals in from the other side of the world because it would have took too long for someone to walk and go and get them.

No one's really sure whether it's true that the Unicorns missed the boat. or that Unicorns didn't really exist.

martyh 01-02-2015 23:02

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
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Originally Posted by alanbjames (Post 35756669)
What i find funny about religions is they change their rules to fit the day and kind of whats in fashion,.

On the surface religions may appear to change with the times but in reality they don't.Christianity at it's birth is still the same religion as it is now ,it is still the belief in one God and Jesus is still the Messiah

Jimmy-J 02-02-2015 05:06

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It’s perfectly apparent that he is monstrous. Utterly monstrous and deserves no respect whatsoever. The moment you banish him, life becomes simpler, purer, cleaner, more worth living in my opinion.
I realised this many years ago, it was a kind of eureka moment, I suddenly felt a huge weight lift from my shoulders and the blinkers obscuring my view vanished in a flash... Whereas I was blind, now I see.

richard s 02-02-2015 10:52

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
The Jaffar nation shall be free and shall not serve the Goa'uld who are false gods and prophets. I know this is a Sci-Fi programme but mankind's love for a religion of what ever denomination is a way for atoning for his/her own failings in life, they then turn to a mystic being for guidance, appeasement and forgiveness and then go on to commit more of the same failings, etc., etc.

As for natural planetary disasters throughout history these were put down by religious leaders/people by way of gods will or anger not due to Ice Age melt or Earthquakes, Tsunamis etc.

EACH TO THEIR OWN I SUPPOSE.

Mr Angry 02-02-2015 18:43

Re: Stephen Fry calls God an ‘evil, capricious, monstrous maniac’.
 
"Melchett was weakest Black Adder character" says God.

"As the creator of the universe and by extension all humour, I consider myself an expert on the topic and that character did not really work.”

Pie & Mash, without the pie.


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