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martyh

31-01-2015 20:59

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756395)

Don't think anyone has ever said that?

That article in the OP is sloppy (and that's being very kind).

Terrorism from Islamic extremism is the biggest threat facing this country and most of the globe. To think otherwise is just sticking your head in a very big hole.

Be it organised, lone wolves, or inspired by.

There's a lot of words there, that tell you sod all.

If the list goes on and on.

Provide the list, describing exactly what each incident was.

Be interesting to see how many were killed.

Would also be interesting to include all of the planned attacks that were foiled.

Put it this way, I don't expect an attack in the UK by the IRA, or the FLNC, FAI, golden Dawn or whoever.

But I would expect an attack from an Islamic Extremist.

The more we refuse to face up to this issue, the more we invite an attack.

There are links in the text that lead to FBI sites and europol sites that give the information you want

Pierre

31-01-2015 21:31

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the vast majority of terror attacks in Europe were perpetrated by separatist groups. For example, in 2013, there were 152 terror attacks in Europe. Only two of them were “religiously motivated,” while 84 were predicated upon ethno-nationalist or separatist beliefs

I will read the whole report, but just skimming through the first few pages it shows how selective the writer of the article has been for example. From the report.

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a continuous increase in the number of arrests for religiously inspired terrorism has been observed since 2011, whereas arrests for separatist terrorism have significantly decreased ~ section 1.1

So you can see what the trend is.

I'm sure if I read the report thoroughly, there would be enough evidence in it to rip his
article to shreds.

Chris

31-01-2015 21:38

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

Add to that the fact that Islamist terrorism, in particular, is disproportionately hard to deal with as the perpetrators have such casual disregard for their own lives. Suicide operations are therefore much easier to carry out than, say, the Brighton bombing, in which the IRA bomber had to work out not only how to get in to the Grand Hotel, but also how to conceal a device with a reliable timer, and then get clean away from the scene.

Pierre

31-01-2015 21:43

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

Also the murder of Lee Rigby was not reported as a "religiously inspired terrorism" !!

So can you really trust the numbers in the report.

alanbjames

31-01-2015 21:44

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

Christmas time i read one of the most racist arcticles i have ever read. Although the arcticle didnt come out and say it, it was implying that the person did it purposly.

Basically a muslim guy was involved in an accident that killed 2 children, it didnt say whether he had been drinking etc but the report stated the word muslim 11 times.

The report even started with the word muslim, now if it was reporting on someone who was Chinese or African this report would have never been alloud in my opinion.

I feel for the muslim people because the media is using propiganda to insinuate muslims are terrorists. I sometimes get picked up by a guy who is a muslim when i get a taxi and he told me a few weeks ago that he is ashamed to say he is muslim because of what is happening in the world.

Hugh	01-02-2015 10:36

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35756427)

Also the murder of Lee Rigby was not reported as a "religiously inspired terrorism" !!

So can you really trust the numbers in the report.

It was reported as an act of terrorism......

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...le-life-ruling

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The two terrorists who murdered British soldier Lee Rigby on a south London street fought with guards yesterday in the dock of the court yards from the grieving family of the soldier they butchered as a judge sentenced the mastermind of the attack to die in prison.

Gary L

01-02-2015 13:26

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35756378)

The answer to the Hugh's question is a pure and simple no despite some posters protestation's that nearly every Muslim is a walking time bomb which is of course utter nonsense.

Nobody believes that.

but the problem really is people saying that everyone thinks that. when they actually don't think that.

a bit like if someone doesn't like a particular black person. there's always somebody that will say he's a racist and he doesn't like all of them.

Hugh	01-02-2015 13:47

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35756522)

I'm sure this link was in the previously closed thread.

but it depends on what's classed as 'terrorism' really.
you and I could be suspected of being terrorists simply for taking photos. so yeh. depends on what we're classing as a 'terrorist'

---------- Post added at 12:26 ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 ----------

Nobody believes that.

but the problem really is people saying that everyone thinks that. when they actually don't think that.

a bit like if someone doesn't like a particular black person. there's always somebody that will say he's a racist and he doesn't like all of them.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35756344)

i wouldn't turn my back on one

Gary L

01-02-2015 13:51

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

I wouldn't turn my back on one either.

whether that's out of repect. or I think they're all terrorists. that's for you to decide.

denphone

01-02-2015 14:05

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

There are good and bad apples in every race and has been since the dawn of time Gary and the Muslims are no different to any other race in that respect.

heero_yuy

01-02-2015 14:12

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The real problem is as Chris pointed out several posts ago: Most terrorists actually value their own lives and will try to stay alive. That is their potential weakness. The believers in extreme Islam actually WANT to die. That makes them seriously dangerous and warrant special measures.

The Japanese troops stranded on the pacific islands during the second world war were similarly difficult to overcome as they were also prepared to die in defence of their divine emperor.

papa smurf

01-02-2015 15:10

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Islam has by its actions achieved a bad reputation if there are good Muslims out there then they should start condemning the acts of Islamic terrorists ,but as far as i can see most Muslims say nothing and that's why i don't trust them .

Gary L

01-02-2015 15:26

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35756555)

Good point. if there's no truth in it. then why not speak up against it?

Why does the majority let the minority tell us the true meaning of Islam?

martyh

01-02-2015 16:13

Re: Are all terrorists Muslim?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35756555)

Islam has by its actions achieved a bad reputation.

can't remember the last time i saw Islam running round with guns and knives.:rolleyes:

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if there are good Muslims out there then they should start condemning the acts of Islamic terrorists ,but as far as i can see most Muslims say nothing

The "good Muslims" do ,quite frequently but people with your attitude tend to ignore what they say anyway

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and that's why i don't trust them

You don't trust them because the Muslim terrorists that are there are a convenient justification for you to show your bigotry

papa smurf

01-02-2015 16:33

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756574)

can't remember the last time i saw Islam running round with guns and knives.:rolleyes:

The "good Muslims" do ,quite frequently but people with your attitude tend to ignore what they say anyway

You don't trust them because the Muslim terrorists that are there are a convenient justification for you to show your bigotry

ah your usual brand of sarcastic horse crap-- grow up

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