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Mr Angry 26-01-2015 16:04

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35755341)
Thats as maybe but the buck stops at Blier he was the Prime Minister

Just because it doesn't suit your narrative does not mean those who voted for it should be absolved of responsibility, does it?

heero_yuy 26-01-2015 17:13

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35755343)
Just because it doesn't suit your narrative does not mean those who voted for it should be absolved of responsibility, does it?

If they voted on the basis of lies and falsified "evidence" like dodgy dossiers then that releaves them of some of the responsibility. Nes Pa?

techguyone 26-01-2015 17:23

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Yes I'd agree, people can only vote on the facts presented, if those facts are false... the blame goes on whoever prepared those facts and the director behind that, not the people who voted.

TheDaddy 26-01-2015 17:32

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35755341)
Thats as maybe but the buck stops at Blier he was the Prime Minister

So the people that supported him are absolved of all responsibility and have no blood on their hands, how convenient for them

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35755376)
Yes I'd agree, people can only vote on the facts presented, if those facts are false... the blame goes on whoever prepared those facts and the director behind that, not the people who voted.

What about when those facts are so blatantly false a million people take to the streets, to my mind those mps you mention are either incompetent or in on it

Mr Angry 26-01-2015 17:41

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Given the fact that very considerable numbers of the public knew it was a load of lies and were very vocal about the fact then ignorance is no defence as far as voting politicians are concerned.

fatmat8 29-01-2015 16:42

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because it will show that politicians are all telling lies !

broadbandking 31-01-2015 11:02

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Originally Posted by fatmat8 (Post 35755988)
because it will show that politicians are all telling lies !

Everybody already knows that, I think is terrible that they can do just because it could hurt one of the parties, it should be released before we elect a new party because we will kick outrselves if the report comes out and it outlines the wrong doing by the party we have just elected

martyh 31-01-2015 12:57

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 35756311)
Everybody already knows that, I think is terrible that they can do just because it could hurt one of the parties, it should be released before we elect a new party because we will kick outrselves if the report comes out and it outlines the wrong doing by the party we have just elected

Actually i agree that the report should not be released so close to a general election .The general election is about what the various parties are going to do in the next 5 yrs not what they did 10 yrs ago and mostly with different leaders in charge .It would be very unfair to the current leaders of the labour party to release the report at this time

Hugh 31-01-2015 13:25

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756321)
Actually i agree that the report should not be released so close to a general election .The general election is about what the various parties are going to do in the next 5 yrs not what they did 10 yrs ago and mostly with different leaders in charge .It would be very unfair to the current leaders of the labour party to release the report at this time

do you mean leaders like Yvette Cooper, Rosie Winterton, Vernon Coaker,who were members of the Labour Government in 2003 and are now in the Labour Shadow Cabinet?

martyh 31-01-2015 13:40

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35756326)
do you mean leaders like Yvette Cooper, Rosie Winterton, Vernon Coaker,who were members of the Labour Government in 2003 and are now in the Labour Shadow Cabinet?

No, i mean the members who had nothing to do with that period ,also lets not forget that most of the decisions where based on false information put forward by Blair .Of course the report should be published ,indeed it really should have been published long before now but releasing it now would not be in the countries best interest with a general election looming

papa smurf 31-01-2015 15:33

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could someone lift the corner of the carpet while the truth is swept under it until its convenient to bring it out ;)

martyh 31-01-2015 18:48

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35756352)
could someone lift the corner of the carpet while the truth is swept under it until its convenient to bring it out ;)

Nobodies suggesting the truth is swept under a carpet ,it should have been revealed a long time ago but at this critical time for our country is tearing it apart with revalations of lies and cover ups really a good idea ,after all we all know that Blair embelished the truth but Blair isn't standing in the general election and i'm sure that most peoples priority in the coming 100 days is who will give us the best government not the results of the Chilcot report

papa smurf 31-01-2015 19:00

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756387)
Nobodies suggesting the truth is swept under a carpet ,it should have been revealed a long time ago but at this critical time for our country is tearing it apart with revalations of lies and cover ups really a good idea ,after all we all know that Blair embelished the truth but Blair isn't standing in the general election and i'm sure that most peoples priority in the coming 100 days is who will give us the best government not the results of the Chilcot report

the truth is always a good idea even if it is inconvenient .

martyh 31-01-2015 19:04

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35756391)
the truth is always a good idea even if it is inconvenient .

Not denying that

papa smurf 31-01-2015 19:09

Re: Chilcot report on Iraq war delayed until after general election.
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35756393)
Not denying that

just trying to justify suppressing it due to the election


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