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ianch99 01-10-2014 18:52
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35732077)
AC doesn't change how far the signal 'reaches.
But it can improve the speeds relative to wireless n at the same distance

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35732336)
You seem to have confused range with performance.

Nowhere in that article does it actually say range is better.
I think you have confused helping the OP with scoring meaningless points .. Do you have a shub2ac?

Mr Banana 01-10-2014 19:26
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35732336)
You seem to have confused range with performance.

Nowhere in that article does it actually say range is better.
It talks about beam forming on the 5mhz frequency is that not increasing range?

Dash: CF noob 01-10-2014 21:58
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
Looks like my SUPERHUB 1 has died, what will i get now.

Kushan 01-10-2014 22:20
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
ITT: People who are confusing range with performance at the same distance.

ianch99 01-10-2014 23:03
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35732398)
ITT: People who are confusing range with performance at the same distance.
but is the shub2ac a better choice than the shub2 for the OP?

Kushan 01-10-2014 23:21
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35732408)
but is the shub2ac a better choice than the shub2 for the OP?
Does the OP have AC devices? If so, then yes. If not, then no.

qasdfdsaq 02-10-2014 02:10
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35732353)
But it can improve the speeds relative to wireless n at the same distance
Which is... as I said earlier, "faster wireless" ---------- Post added at 01:10 ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 ----------

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Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35732363)
It talks about beam forming on the 5mhz frequency is that not increasing range?
There's no such thing as the '5mhz frequency range' however 802.11n also had (optional) beamforming.

Beamforming makes a contribution to 'improve[d] speeds relative to wireless n at the same distance'. Range is still limited by law and receive sensitivity, neither of which has changed in AC. When signal gets weak AC has to switch back to 'n' modes anyway because... they have longer range.

ianch99 02-10-2014 11:01
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35732413)
Does the OP have AC devices? If so, then yes. If not, then no.
What if he gets some in the coming months?

Kushan 02-10-2014 11:31
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35732449)
What if he gets some in the coming months?
If we go down that path, we should dump all of our equipment the second it becomes out dated.

ianch99 02-10-2014 12:51
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35732450)
If we go down that path, we should dump all of our equipment the second it becomes out dated.
Huh?

Kushan 02-10-2014 13:10
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35732454)
Huh?
You're saying that OP might get some AC hardware down the line. I'm saying that if we took that approach, we should all dump our existing routers for a newer one just in case we get AC equipment down the line. Rather, it makes sense to hold off until you get or need AC devices, as by the the bugs should have been worked out (one would hope).

The reality is, unless OP has AC equipment, he won't see any advantage to the AC router, it's exactly the same but supports Wireless-AC. It won't have better range or throughput or anything like that unless it's paired with AC equipment.

There's also something else to consider - the fault reports of the SH2AC. It's hard to grasp how many are becoming faulty, partly due to the NDA of the testers, but enough people have mentioned it to be a concern. So if there's no AC equipment, it'd definitely be better to stick with the existing SH2.

ianch99 02-10-2014 13:28
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35732457)
You're saying that OP might get some AC hardware down the line. I'm saying that if we took that approach, we should all dump our existing routers for a newer one just in case we get AC equipment down the line. Rather, it makes sense to hold off until you get or need AC devices, as by the the bugs should have been worked out (one would hope).

The reality is, unless OP has AC equipment, he won't see any advantage to the AC router, it's exactly the same but supports Wireless-AC. It won't have better range or throughput or anything like that unless it's paired with AC equipment.

There's also something else to consider - the fault reports of the SH2AC. It's hard to grasp how many are becoming faulty, partly due to the NDA of the testers, but enough people have mentioned it to be a concern. So if there's no AC equipment, it'd definitely be better to stick with the existing SH2.
Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? :)

As far as I know, the OP was offered a free shub2ac to replace his (possibly faulty) shub2. Seems an easy decision to me ..

I had a problem with my shub2 which required a replacement plus I know a couple of people who have a shub2ac and so far have had no issues with them.

AMWSmith 02-10-2014 14:23
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
I know someone that's had 4 ACs so far. ME.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35732469)
Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour? :)

As far as I know, the OP was offered a free shub2ac to replace his (possibly faulty) shub2. Seems an easy decision to me ..

I had a problem with my shub2 which required a replacement plus I know a couple of people who have a shub2ac and so far have had no issues with them.

qasdfdsaq 02-10-2014 20:58
Re: Super hub 2 v's Super hub 2 AC ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35732450)
If we go down that path, we should dump all of our equipment the second it becomes out dated.
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ianch99 02-10-2014 22:47
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35732547)
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