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Gavin-D 02-08-2014 18:46
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Unless ITV plan on leaving Freeview how on earth can they charge the likes of Sky and VM for the channels?

Sirius 02-08-2014 20:45
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
If VM are forced to do this then they should put them in a channel package so those of us who don't need them don't have to pay twice for them. I am already forced to pay the TV tax even thou i don't watch the bbc, so why should i have to pay them twice.

passingbat 03-08-2014 00:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35719163)
I am already forced to pay the TV tax even thou i don't watch the bbc, so why should i have to pay them twice.
You're also paying for ITV, via the increased product cost, to cover TV advertising fees.

Just like the BBC, ITV isn't free; you're just paying for it in a different way. A way you can't avoid paying (unless you purposely avoid buying anything advertised on ITV ;) )

1andrew1 03-08-2014 13:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35719134)
Unless ITV plan on leaving Freeview how on earth can they charge the likes of Sky and VM for the channels?
There are some similar but not identical situations. In the USA, FTA channels charge the cable companies for their channels but do not charge over DTT. And some UKTV channels (Drama, Dave,Yesterday) are free on Freeview but part of basic packages on VM and Sky and so unavailable on Freesat.

telegramsam 03-08-2014 13:10
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowieboots (Post 35718836)
Just has a survey asking how I would react if virgin cut BBC1, ITV1, CH4 and CH5 and would I pay more to keep them. We dont have an ariel so would lose these. Are virgin thinking of doing this?. We used to have sky but changed because whem we had bad weather, the picture went all screwed up, in fact in the end, some went off on there own. Quite happy with virgin quality wise, was ****ed they didnt hace Sky Atlantic, but got over that. Not sure how Id react if we lost the free to air ones
Yes I have done the same survey asking if I would be prepared to pay extra to keep BBC 1,ITV1,Channel4 and Channel5,or if I would be prepared to do without these channels on virgin media. I wouldn`t pay extra for these channels when I can still get them for `free` on Freeview and Freesat. The survey pointed out that they were refering to the MAIN channels not ITV2,3,4 OR OTHER BBC channels.
Why would anyone pay extra to keep them on Virgin media? Unless you can`t receive them through your aerial or get Freesat I cannot see anyone agreeing to it.

Sirius 03-08-2014 13:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35719244)
Yes I have done the same survey asking if I would be prepared to pay extra to keep BBC 1,ITV1,Channel4 and Channel5,or if I would be prepared to do without these channels on virgin media. I wouldn`t pay extra for these channels when I can still get them for `free` on Freeview and Freesat. The survey pointed out that they were refering to the MAIN channels not ITV2,3,4 OR OTHER BBC channels.
Why would anyone pay extra to keep them on Virgin media? Unless you can`t receive them through your aerial or get Freesat I cannot see anyone agreeing to it.
Where is this survey ?

telegramsam 03-08-2014 13:48
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35719249)
Where is this survey ?
It was from a survey website I`m a member of called Inbox Surveys.

nialli 03-08-2014 14:04
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35719072)
"Subscribers of pay-television channels could face higher bills if ITV succeeds in charging BSkyB and Virgin Media to carry its main channel, opponents of the proposal have warned."

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/busine...cle4165028.ece

Unfortunately you'll only be able to read the full article if you subscribe to The Times
Murdoch paper story scaremongering to assist 37% Murdoch-owned BSkyB negotiations with ITV over carriage costs. Are we taking this seriously??!!

RichardCoulter 03-08-2014 14:07
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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35719124)
There's a Times link in post #8 and a Telegraph link in post #10.

Seeing as they have to pay Freeview to be on there i can't see them winning it.
As an existing analogue channel, ITV were gifted capacity on Freeview. S4C were too, but ITV bought this from them. The only time ITV have to pay to be on Freeview is when this capacity is exhausted.

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35719190)
You're also paying for ITV, via the increased product cost, to cover TV advertising fees.

Just like the BBC, ITV isn't free; you're just paying for it in a different way. A way you can't avoid paying (unless you purposely avoid buying anything advertised on ITV ;) )
Good point, a lot of people seem to forget this.

howardmicks 03-08-2014 14:07
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35719255)
Murdoch paper story scaremongering to assist 37% Murdoch-owned BSkyB negotiations with ITV over carriage costs. Are we taking this seriously??!!
Not in the slightest ;)

1andrew1 03-08-2014 14:08
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35719255)
Murdoch paper story scaremongering to assist 37% Murdoch-owned BSkyB negotiations with ITV over carriage costs. Are we taking this seriously??!!
The Times is owned by NewsCorp but there was a previous article in The Telegraph as well. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...rogrammes.html

nialli 03-08-2014 14:23
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35719258)
The Times is owned by NewsCorp but there was a previous article in The Telegraph as well. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...rogrammes.html
In 2013

muppetman11 03-08-2014 14:48
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Press Input switch to a different HDMI and watch via YouView box.......simples :D

Upshot I hope the platforms don't pay them another penny.

passingbat 03-08-2014 15:56
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35719265)
Press Input switch to a different HDMI and watch via YouView box.......simples :D Upshot I hope the platforms don't pay them another penny.
But for people who don't watch things live, it means buying another PVR, or using Catch-up services. (And try fast forwarding the adds on ITV Player ;))

Sirius 03-08-2014 17:22
Re: Are Virgin going to cut normal channels
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35719265)
Press Input switch to a different HDMI and watch via YouView box.......simples :D

Upshot I hope the platforms don't pay them another penny.
Agreed


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