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RichardCoulter 25-02-2014 16:04

Re: BBC2 Wales v BBC2 England.
 
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Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35675446)
I would love to have BBC2 Wales in England....we have BBC1 Wales on VM.

That's a good point, I wonder why VM didn't add the BBC2 variants when they added the BBC1 variants :confused:

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35675447)
I like the choice to ditch BBC2 Scotland when Newsnight is on. Scotland splits away from the main schedule at 11pm for 'Newsnight Scotland' which means we miss excellent reportage from somewhere around the world in favour of some horrible, parochial nonsense that deserves no place in the schedules outside of 'Reporting Scotland' at 6.30pm.

But thanks to the miracle of satellite we can choose to watch BBC2 England instead and keep up with Newsnight as viewed by the other 55-odd million people in England, Wales and NI.

Actually, there's no regionalisation on BBC2 HD at the moment so it's easier, you don't have to go into the 900s to find the alternative as the single BBC2 HD stream for the whole UK is on 109.

That's a good idea, I sometimes watch ITV HD if I want to know what's happening in Manchester :)

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35675437)
In my experience around here, people prefer to have the choice.

Yes, but DTT customers (who make up the bulk of TV viewers) don't have the choice- that's the very problem!

Russ 25-02-2014 17:03

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35675491)
Yes, but DTT customers (who make up the bulk of TV viewers) don't have the choice- that's the very problem!

It's only a problem if you're not used to having the choice. Most people around here are used to having the choice so it's no problem to us.

RichardCoulter 25-02-2014 19:17

Re: BBC2 Wales v BBC2 England.
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35675501)
It's only a problem if you're not used to having the choice. Most people around here are used to having the choice so it's no problem to us.

So have you found that most Welsh people have satellite or cable* so that they can choose which version of BBC2 etc to watch?

VM in England does not give us any choice of BBC2 variants, we just have the sustaining feed. Do you have an extra slot for BBC2 England, or do you do the same as Chris and use the HD or AD version in order to access the English service?

Russ 25-02-2014 19:25

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35675536)
So have you found that most Welsh people have satellite or cable* so that they can choose which version of BBC2 etc to watch?

VM in England does not give us any choice of BBC2 variants, we just have the sustaining feed. Do you have an extra slot for BBC2 England, or do you do the same as Chris and use the HD or AD version in order to access the English service?

I don't watch the English version, as I said I don't have any need to. We're used to certain programmes being available on the Welsh or English versions only, and other times they're available but at a different time or on a different day. But either way, we have the choice. If there's something on the English version we'd rather see we can can watch it. Or not.

The BBC England versions are on their own channel slots.

greyposter 01-03-2014 20:21

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Spot on.I live in Bristol but Wales and England channels are available, no problem.

nodrogd 03-03-2014 13:29

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BBC2 England is fed round VM's core network with the other universaly distributed channels, & is on channel 865 for everyone. The regional & local SD/HD varients are fed directly to the local network headends (these replaced the services that used to be captured by terrestrial aerials at each Headend)

smallclone 03-03-2014 15:43

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I'd very much like BBC2 Northern Ireland. There's rugby on Friday nights that would be useful.

RichardCoulter 04-03-2014 00:50

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I know a lot of people find it annoying that something that they want to watch on the main network is delayed for an hour or so by the nations.

I guess this is less of an issue now with the advent of cable and satellite.

This can also be useful though at times. For example if one catches a programme that is part way through or there are recording clashes.

Chris 04-03-2014 07:59

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Back in my school days it was the way we used to catch soft pr0n on channel 4. Living on the border with Wales you could get S4C as well, and back in the early days it was more like a regionalised version of channel 4 than a distinct station in its own right. If there was something worth seeing, word would get round, and you would normally find it starting on S4C about an hour later ...

smallclone 04-03-2014 09:38

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35677697)
Back in my school days........

Back in my school days we only had s4c. No channel 4. I literally missed out on a generation of tv shows like twin peaks, cheers, roseanne, the wonder years. Some of them were put on at 12am etc. But most were missed.

I still don't know if this was a good thing or a bad thing :D

Russ 04-03-2014 09:44

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Originally Posted by smallclone (Post 35677709)
Back in my school days we only had s4c. No channel 4. I literally missed out on a generation of tv shows like twin peaks, cheers, roseanne, the wonder years. Some of them were put on at 12am etc. But most were missed.


Oh yes, exactly the same for me too!

nodrogd 04-03-2014 10:29

Re: BBC2 Wales v BBC2 England.
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35677697)
Back in my school days it was the way we used to catch soft pr0n on channel 4. Living on the border with Wales you could get S4C as well, and back in the early days it was more like a regionalised version of channel 4 than a distinct station in its own right. If there was something worth seeing, word would get round, and you would normally find it starting on S4C about an hour later ...

Ahhh! The days of the Red Triangle come flooding back :D

RichardCoulter 04-03-2014 14:52

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I used to stay in Wales a lot in the eighties when it was analogue only. I found that, even when programmes in English were shown later, if they overran, the transmitter was promptly switched off at the planned time of closedown, regardless as to whether the programme had actually finished or not :shocked:

smallclone 05-03-2014 10:15

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35677782)
I used to stay in Wales a lot in the eighties when it was analogue only. I found that, even when programmes in English were shown later, if they overran, the transmitter was promptly switched off at the planned time of closedown, regardless as to whether the programme had actually finished or not :shocked:

The guy who puts 50p in the meter clocks off at 12.30am


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