Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644762)

Oh l like this again my rant at the Tories - l hate them, every single Tory supporter in this country who voted for them, should be ashamed.

Where l live within a few miles - there are four hospitals that were on the Tory hit list for closure - Ealing, West Middlesex, Central Middx and Charing Cross.
Luckily West Middx and Ealing were saved. But this was to SAVE money.

The truth is that the Tories, want the NHS to be privatised and they are doing it by the back door - two years ago a PRIVATE company took over a hospital, and it couldn't be saved as the company couldn't afford to run it.

At the moment there are MORE admin staff running hospitals instead of medical staff. By putting the NHS in private hands would save the government billions. And by 2015 l believe that the Tories will make every attempt to do this.

Its true what some paper said that The Tories think of only one person - THEMSELF.

Members can say that l am ranting, but if there was a vote in the commons - EVERY Tory would vote, except those that would fly abroad - like IDS did yesterday on the bedroom tax vote.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35644838)

By way of widening the debate: Almost nowhere in the entire world will you find a state health service that is structured the way ours is. Some degree of co-payment is the norm, especially in modern Western nations.

Why are we so utterly convinced that our way is the best, especially when the NHS doesn't even come close to the top of the developed nations league table for health outcomes?

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

This forum is about free speech, and l will say what l want - if you don't like what l write, then don't read it - simples.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

The next time ANY member goes to A&E or their GP, see how long you have to wait for an appointment OR wait at A&E to be seen.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

I was at Ealing Hospital, the waiting time was FOUR HOURS, reason not enough staff..

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

To make an appointment with my GP, TWO days, thats if you can get an answer. Drs are overstrectehd.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

This forum is about free speech, and l will say what l want - if you don't like what l write, then don't read it - simples.

The next time ANY member goes to A&E or their GP, see how long you have to wait for an appointment OR wait at A&E to be seen.

I was at Ealing Hospital, the waiting time was FOUR HOURS, reason not enough staff.

To make an appointment with my GP, TWO days, thats if you can get an answer. Drs are overstrectehd.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

This forum is about free speech, and l will say what l want - if you don't like what l write, then don't read it - simples.

The next time ANY member goes to A&E or their GP, see how long you have to wait for an appointment OR wait at A&E to be seen.

I was at Ealing Hospital, the waiting time was FOUR HOURS, reason not enough staff.

To make an appointment with my GP, TWO days, thats if you can get an answer. Drs are overstrectehd.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

This forum is about free speech, and l will say what l want - if you don't like what l write, then don't read it - simples.

The next time ANY member goes to A&E or their GP, see how long you have to wait for an appointment OR wait at A&E to be seen.

I was at Ealing Hospital, the waiting time was FOUR HOURS, reason not enough staff.

To make an appointment with my GP, TWO days, thats if you can get an answer. Drs are overstrectehd.

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701 (Post 35644849)

Wouldn't you need to read it to know you don't like it ;) Also free speech is NOT about saying what you want.


A&E 10 minutes last week and GP 20 mins this morning.

I'm sure waiting times vary everywhere you can't or at least shouldn't base your opinion on just your or a few peoples experience. Plus the staff should be triaging the most serious cases when you get there.

As above waiting times vary. And yes I have no doubt Dr's are overstretched.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644839)

This forum is about free speech, and l will say what l want - if you don't like what l write, then don't read it - simples.

The next time ANY member goes to A&E or their GP, see how long you have to wait for an appointment OR wait at A&E to be seen.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35644881)

btw2, you must have been very unlucky, as the stats for Ealing (for last week) show that only 31 of the 1896 people who attended A&E waited over 4 hours...

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35644892)

:dozey:

---------- Post added at 20:30 ---------- Previous post was at 20:28 ----------

:rofl: busted :D

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35644581)

http://news.sky.com/story/1167733/a-...o-tier-service

This to me is the first signs that the NHS will go private by the time of the elction.

The NHS cannot cope with the pressure that it is under. Since the Tories came to power, more and more hospitals have come under threat of closure.

Mr Cameron has said that he is pouring millions into the service, well maybe if he poured the money into the medical side and NOT the Admin side, this would ease the mounting pressure on such a delicate sector

It was stated yesterday that some hospitals are 150 nurses short on each section.

Each election year, the NHS is used as a pawn by all political parties to gain more votes, you cannot have that. The NHS is abused each day by patients with needless problems that can be dealt with by Gps or Pharmacists. BUT, all sections of the NHS is stretched to the limit.

But this is because of cutbacks by government. And this is NOT a rant, but the truth about what is happening to a servive provided for poor and needy.