Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632403)

We don't know that. All we know is that they apparently look foreign which is good enough for Gary to decide they shouldn't have treatment.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632403)

We don't know that. All we know is that they apparently look foreign which is good enough for Gary to decide they shouldn't have treatment.

For the narrow minded - I've not said 'health tourism' doesn't exist. That's not what my comments were about.

And of course no thread moaning about "them coming over here" and "getting benefits" should ever fail to bring Islam in to the discussion :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35632407)

If I said they were all black you'd say how do you know some of them haven't got masks on.

If I said they were all dropped off in a big truck that said "Immigrants transport from the border to the hospital" written on the side. you'd say how do you know it wasn't a joke.

The problem is there. it's going to get worse. it needs sorting.

all we have to do is ignore the do gooders and we can sort it.

can we count on you, Russ?

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35632410)

My point there is that it's really easy to tell if someone isn't a UK national/not long 'off the boat'.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35632411)

well you are hardly the example with your name calling are you

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632412)

Is it equally easy to tell whether or not someone has paid tax and NI?

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35632406)

Sorry, can you re-word that question as I can't understand what you are asking......

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632412)

They say ignorance is bliss and you take it to whole new dimensions.

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Is it equally easy to tell whether or not someone has paid tax and NI?

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The ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black. Well done - back of the net, top corner.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35632416)

I couldn't even determine whether they drove there or owned a goldfish and a tortoise.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35632421)

I am not admin or mod here you are

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632423)

The day either of those determine whether someone is entitled to NHS treatment is the day you'll stop publicly embarrassing yourself.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632423)

The day either of those determine whether someone is entitled to NHS treatment is the day you'll stop publicly embarrassing yourself.

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Good to see you haven't forgotten that. Although it makes no difference to whether or not someone blindly makes ignorant and arrogant assumptions based purely on first appearance.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35632434)

I'm just saying that it's hard to find the things that people put in the way of the problem.

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35632435)

lol there you are using that word arrogant again Russ ;)

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632412)

They say ignorance is bliss and you take it to whole new dimensions.

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The ultimate example of the pot calling the kettle black. Well done - back of the net, top corner.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632436)

No, the problem is when you base your assumption that they're not entitled to 'free' treatment' because they apparently look foreign, as if that makes any difference. Don't worry I'm fully aware you only started this thread as pseudo humour but still, interesting points have emerged as a result.

If they only just arrived in the UK for treatment and intent to leave without paying for it (which happens a LOT) then that's a massive problem and I'm with you on that. But that's not what you're saying.

How do you know they haven't been living here all their working lives and paid in to the NHS? The argument that how long they've been hear means they're unlikely to have contributed enough falls flat on it's face if you think of an 18 year old having his first pay packet then needing emergency treatment - has he paid in enough?

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Yes, you present me with so many opportunities.

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35632438)

I posted match the OP's, hell even my old next door neighbour who came here from Jamaica in the 60's or 70's says there is too many immigrants now and also complained about NHS tourists (among other things)

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

Oh and everything was great while I was helping you out privately and sending you stuff through the post

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35632419)

A UK national could be doing that job and paying the Tax/NI that the non UK national is paying. IE it is not new additional income for the country, it is just replacing who is the "payer". That is before you consider the benefits paid out to the UK national who is instead unemployed. There may be additional GDP generated simply because there is extra demand for things like food etc. Then you also have to factor in the money sent back to the "home" country. Economic activity relies on money passing from A to B to C and so on within the country. As soon as it moves out of the country, even on buying imported items, it is lost to this country and has a bigger negative effect than the amount involved. All in all the financial "benefits" of immigration are wildly exaggerated.