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Sirius 09-10-2013 12:38
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35629820)

all about maximum profit and sales. nothing else.
Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs

Gary L 09-10-2013 12:45
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35629826)
Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs
Ok. tax.

but from what I've read it reads that they won't be classing them as medicine anymore?

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I personally think that the whole country will be divided soon anyway.
rich v poor.

the poor will just buy on the black market (which will expand massively)
and the rich will be the mugs that pay the tax on the government stuff.

you could say that this is what they've foreseen happening anyway.

Osem 09-10-2013 13:34
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by alferret (Post 35629775)
This is one of the major flaws of the EU . Their overwhelming need to control everything that we do. Be it personal choice with smoking, drinking, drugs, movement across borders etc. Even the reclassification of e-cigs to a medicine so that they can control and tax that too.
Feck the EU and all their bigoted representatives.
What on Earth would all the Eurocrats do to earn a crust if they didn't have everyone's affairs to meddle with?

Nidge41 10-10-2013 04:14
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35629826)
Wrong

All about the tax you pay on them. That's why they want to tax E cigs
They won't be able to tax them now after the EU ruling on them on Tuesday.

Mcaven proved to be worthy of nothing and a mouthpiece for the Pharma Companies and Tobacco Companies.

There's thousands of people giving up the weed on a weekly basis for the more healthy Vaping option.

The Government are losing out on revenue from the sale of Tobacco.

I noticed that she requested for further negotiations which, proves to me that she's being paid by the big Pharma and Tobacco Companies.

Sirius 10-10-2013 05:50
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35630121)
They won't be able to tax them now after the EU ruling on them on Tuesday.

Mcaven proved to be worthy of nothing and a mouthpiece for the Pharma Companies and Tobacco Companies.

There's thousands of people giving up the weed on a weekly basis for the more healthy Vaping option.

The Government are losing out on revenue from the sale of Tobacco.

I noticed that she requested for further negotiations which, proves to me that she's being paid by the big Pharma and Tobacco Companies.
E cigs are far safer than real fags and yet the Government and the EU want to tax them out of existence. I never understand the idiots in power whoever they may be :shocked:

Nidge41 10-10-2013 08:20
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35630135)
E cigs are far safer than real fags and yet the Government and the EU want to tax them out of existence. I never understand the idiots in power whoever they may be :shocked:
Yup, the Government and the tobacco companies must be losing a fortune with people switching to the Vapor options.

There was something on the news this morning about the government losing billions of pounds a year to illegal tobacco imports, there's no call for tobacco imports anymore vaping is the way to go.

richard s 10-10-2013 08:26
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Nanny state

Taf 10-10-2013 09:43
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The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?

Dash: CF noob 10-10-2013 17:52
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35630202)
The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?
Yes to the VAT.

Nidge41 11-10-2013 06:47
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35630202)
The government's tax take on tobacco is now over 81p in the £.

Are eCigs VAT'ed?
No because there's no tobacco in them.

adzii_nufc 11-10-2013 06:55
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Anyone with common sense buys them online from the UK or abroad. Same product for a lower cost. They would be even more popular if high street shops and the likes of E-lites buggered off.

Nidge41 11-10-2013 08:13
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35630676)
Anyone with common sense buys them online from the UK or abroad. Same product for a lower cost. They would be even more popular if high street shops and the likes of E-lites buggered off.
A mate of mine sells them from his shop round here, I'm in the process of converting over from the smelly ciggies onto Vaping.

A set up has cost me just under £45.00, I'll have my money back within 2 weeks if I keep off the ciggies.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35630701)
e-cigarettes are not VAT exempt but do not have to pay the additional duty that is set on real ciggies. Most prices are shown with VAT added at 20% or 5% depending upon classification:



Linky

The exact definitions are still somewhat vague even from HMRC.
That link was before the EU voted against making them a medicinal product.

The EU has seen sense for once, the Government are running scared because they're going to lose billions in revenue.

adzii_nufc 11-10-2013 08:26
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
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Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35630702)
A mate of mine sells them from his shop round here, I'm in the process of converting over from the smelly ciggies onto Vaping.

A set up has cost me just under £45.00, I'll have my money back within 2 weeks if I keep off the ciggies.

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That link was before the EU voted against making them a medicinal product.

The EU has seen sense for once, the Government are running scared because they're going to lose billions in revenue.
You can get them much cheaper but it doesn't matter because you're still better off, once you're into the vaping game and know the ins and outs you'll see there's a different side to it. I know a site that's selling 100ml for £18 which is very good and it's not half bad stuff either.

Nidge41 11-10-2013 09:22
Re: EU moves to ban menthol cigarettes. Free Country?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35630719)
You can get them much cheaper but it doesn't matter because you're still better off, once you're into the vaping game and know the ins and outs you'll see there's a different side to it. I know a site that's selling 100ml for £18 which is very good and it's not half bad stuff either.
Cheers for the PM, that site looks the poodles. :tu:

I've got this one,


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/10/47.jpg

Gary L 11-10-2013 09:45
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Is the battery big enough for ya?


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