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qasdfdsaq 20-08-2013 19:36
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35613090)
None of the other mentioned ISP are capable of delivering those speeds. Virgin have already test @ 200mbps, it does not take a genius to work out that Virgin are the ones they are talking about.
Actually you'll find Orange already has 200Mbps out and available to actual customers, while Virgin don't even have any public plans. Telekom.de (owners of the T-Mobile brand) also sells 200Mbps already. In fact, Telekom has had 200Mbps available since 2011. Virgin are the only company not already delivering those speeds, let alone "not capable". Not to mention BT already delivers 300Mbps to limited areas with coverage exceeding VM's of 300-1000Mbps due later this year*

Also EE's 4G network (built on top of T-Mobile's core) already does up to 150Mbps with upgrades to 450Mbps capability already underway.

It does not take a genius to work out that Virgin are not the ones they are talking about.

* Accompanied by extortionate install fees

Kushan 20-08-2013 19:41
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35613090)
None of the other mentioned ISP are capable of delivering those speeds. Virgin have already test @ 200mbps, it does not take a genius to work out that Virgin are the ones they are talking about.
FTTP does enable those other ISPs to offer it, though. Admittedly in extremely small numbers. Seems like the 200Mbps was a figure sony plucked from being the fastest speed any of them provides, even if it's just to a few people with money to burn.

I wouldn't look too much into this.

qasdfdsaq 20-08-2013 19:46
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35613107)
FTTP does enable those other ISPs to offer it, though.
And FTTP on Demand potentially allows them to offer it to more people than VM Cable.

Skie 20-08-2013 20:05
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35613107)

I wouldn't look too much into this.

Exactly. When it was said it was basically a list of various ISP's around Europe and "up to 200 megabits" tacked on the end.

Another VM User 20-08-2013 20:08
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35613099)
It wouldn't surpise me if this 'exciting benefits' are that the PS4 can be used to watch VM channels, much in the same way you can use the Xbox to watch Sky


..but really, VM should just stop barking on about faster download speeds when they can't even keep their promises of 'double upload speeds' that they said we'd be getting
Would you as sony want to deliver channels that I am sure would buffer and stutter over the BB? I wouldnt!

qasdfdsaq 20-08-2013 20:15
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
That's the whole point. Youtube buffers and stutters on VM due to poor "partnership" between the two companies. BBC does not buffer or stutter (as much) on VM due to better partnering (actually peering). Sony want to do the same as BBC in this case.

The whole press release is basically shouting about the fact they will be "working together" to avoid those kinds of problems.

Risco 20-08-2013 20:20
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35613101)
Actually you'll find Orange already has 200Mbps out and available to actual customers, while Virgin don't even have any public plans. Telekom.de (owners of the T-Mobile brand) also sells 200Mbps already. In fact, Telekom has had 200Mbps available since 2011. Virgin are the only company not already delivering those speeds, let alone "not capable". Not to mention BT already delivers 300Mbps to limited areas with coverage exceeding VM's of 300-1000Mbps due later this year*

Also EE's 4G network (built on top of T-Mobile's core) already does up to 150Mbps with upgrades to 450Mbps capability already underway.

It does not take a genius to work out that Virgin are not the ones they are talking about.

* Accompanied by extortionate install fees
Post me a link to where the general public can buy those speeds.

ethan103 20-08-2013 20:40
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35613099)
It wouldn't surpise me if this 'exciting benefits' are that the PS4 can be used to watch VM channels, much in the same way you can use the Xbox to watch Sky


..but really, VM should just stop barking on about faster download speeds when they can't even keep their promises of 'double upload speeds' that they said we'd be getting

A lot of people already have them and you can keep updated on the website.

As a free upgrade, you can't complain much.

qasdfdsaq 20-08-2013 20:46
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35613132)
Post me a link to where the general public can buy those speeds.
Read the post you quoted. The links are already in there.

Another VM User 20-08-2013 20:48
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by ethan103 (Post 35613143)
A lot of people already have them and you can keep updated on the website.

As a free upgrade, you can't complain much.
LOL free my arse. 2 speed increases followed by 2 price rises

ethan103 20-08-2013 21:51
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Another VM User (Post 35613147)
LOL free my arse. 2 speed increases followed by 2 price rises

My price hasn't risen yet I've had a free upgrade.

Stephen 20-08-2013 21:53
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by Another VM User (Post 35613147)
LOL free my arse. 2 speed increases followed by 2 price rises
My price never went up.

The annual price changes would have happened regardless of the speed increases.

Risco 20-08-2013 22:13
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35613145)
Read the post you quoted. The links are already in there.
You linked two french sites that have nothing to do with the UK. You then mentioned EE as if it is a viable network to download at those speeds, which it is not in the slightest with the GB restrictions. The only tangible one is BT and the only way to get that is FTTP which costs stupid money to have installed. Try again. :D

MUD_Wizard 20-08-2013 22:24
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35613101)
Not to mention BT already delivers 300Mbps to limited areas with coverage exceeding VM's of 300-1000Mbps due later this year*

* Accompanied by extortionate install fees
Link please for BT infinity/FTTP/FTTPoD Gigabit?

---------- Post added at 23:19 ---------- Previous post was at 23:17 ----------

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Originally Posted by Risco (Post 35613185)
You linked two french sites that have nothing to do with the UK. You then mentioned EE as if it is a viable network to download at those speeds, which it is not in the slightest with the GB restrictions. The only tangible one is BT and the only way to get that is FTTP which costs stupid money to have installed. Try again. :D
Yeah I was going to say that, then I thought it kinda makes sense as per the PS4 press, since they target all of Europe and he was talking Europe wide I assume. Still a bit of a WTF moment tho.

---------- Post added at 23:24 ---------- Previous post was at 23:19 ----------

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35613101)
Also EE's 4G network (built on top of T-Mobile's core) already does up to 150Mbps with upgrades to 450Mbps capability already underway.
You're quoting theoretical maximum communication speed of the network, as if it's the throughput speed a user gets ; it's not by a long shot at the moment.

Ben B 20-08-2013 22:28
Re: Playstation 4 partnering with Virgin Media and 200mbit speeds this year?
 
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Originally Posted by MUD_Wizard (Post 35613194)
You're quoting theoretical maximum communication speed of the network, as if it's the throughput speed a user gets ; it's not by a long shot at the moment.
Can vouch for this, highest I've ever got is 30-40Mbps


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