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Russ 17-07-2013 10:25
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by PISCES (Post 35596090)
No! just a woman with power, and a man who didn't like being told what to do especially from a woman!:o:
Oh.....my.....word....:banghead:

Hugh 17-07-2013 10:44
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by PISCES (Post 35596090)
No! just a woman with power, and a man who didn't like being told what to do especially from a woman!:o:
Repeated from previous page..

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35596087)
You may find this info from the NUM useful...

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.Between the years 1957 and 1963, no less than 264 collieries were closed, while the number of miners fell by nearly 30 per cent. During this six-year period, Scotland lost 39 per cent of its pits, while 30 per cent of those in South Wales, Northumberland and Durham were wiped out.

Throughout the 1060s, with a Labour Government in office from 1964, the pit closure programme accelerated; it decimated the industry. During this period, nearly 300 more pits were closed, and the total workforce slumped from over 750,000 in the late 1950s down to 320,000 by 1968
http://num.org.uk/History-NumHistory...-industry.html

These things happened before Thatcher or Scargill were in Office.

Taf 17-07-2013 11:10
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
If the coal could be used at a very high efficiency with no pollution then yes.

If the coal could be produced at a much lower overall cost than other sources then yes.

If people actually wanted the very hard life of a miner then yes.

If we had fears that we could no longer source our fuel needs from abroad then yes.

Maggy 17-07-2013 11:15
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Opening the coal mines won't address the problem of future power shortages and blackouts.

Pierre 17-07-2013 11:47
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
Simple economics.

If there's money in it, it will happen.

Anything is possible with the right incentive.

PISCES 17-07-2013 12:01
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35596123)
Simple economics.

If there's money in it, it will happen.

Anything is possible with the right incentive.
True!:idea:

TheDaddy 17-07-2013 14:07
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by PISCES (Post 35596070)
I do care about the environment, very much so, but there is years and years of coal waiting to be mined, i think it cost more to import the coal from Germany our own countries people are looking for work, work they cannot find, i am sure the reopening of the mines would benefit everyone in this country, i am sure it would create profit, it would create jobs, it would get people back into work, paying into the tax system, and bring communities together again just my belief:)
They can't be reopened, when the mines were allowed to flood the seams of coal will have been lost due to mixing with shale.

Sirius 17-07-2013 14:15
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Originally Posted by PISCES (Post 35596065)
It would create jobs for people:Yes::Yes:
However it will not be jobs for uk people, it will be low paid slave labor for anyone from the eastern block of country's.

rogerdraig 17-07-2013 16:39
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
While I wouldn't agree that they had to be shut in the first place as they were only thinking bottom line and didn't consider how it could leave us relient on other countries in those calculations . Really now you couldn't viably reopen the old ones though new ones especially open cast could possibly be viable I think now you are better of throwing the money at renewables and better use of what we have (led lighting insulation etc)

j52c 17-07-2013 17:29
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
I worked for the British Coal Opencast Executive up to the time that it was privatised and the coalmines sold to Richard Budge.

It was the Opencast side of British Coal that subsidised the deep mines and kept them open.

Chris 17-07-2013 19:38
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Blinking Nora. Is this another miners strike / Maggie hate thread?

Sirius 17-07-2013 19:46
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35596343)
Blinking Nora. Is this another miners strike / Maggie hate thread?
Don't know about that,


My point is that if they did open the mines again the work force would not be home grown lets be truthful. To make it pay they would have to pay slave labor wages and only the eastern block workers would accept that. Every tom, dick and harry would rush to the uk looking for a job in the mines and home grown workers would not get a look in.

Damien 19-07-2013 15:09
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35596918)
Given that you can't get the Jeremy Kyle generation off their sofa's for a clean job, there's no way any of them would be going down a pit anytime soon. It would be jobs for yet more immigrants, who would need health services, schools and houses.
Jeremy Kyle generation is a bit harsh. As for immigrants if they have a job then all the better, reports this week suggested we need to increase the immigrant population to deal with the increasing cost of the aging population. Ideally immigrants that stay here for 5/10/20 years and return home like a large amount of the Polish immigrants did.

TheDaddy 19-07-2013 15:56
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35596950)
Jeremy Kyle generation is a bit harsh. As for immigrants if they have a job then all the better, reports this week suggested we need to increase the immigrant population to deal with the increasing cost of the aging population. Ideally immigrants that stay here for 5/10/20 years and return home like a large amount of the Polish immigrants did.
Go home, how do you know large amounts went home, nobody bothered to count them in I doubt they'll count them out either and at all the factories we work for their not going home, ever, their here to stay.

Sirius 19-07-2013 16:00
Re: Should the coal mines in the UK be reopened?
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35596983)
Go home, how do you know large amounts went home, nobody bothered to count them in I doubt they'll count them out either and at all the factories we work for their not going home, ever, their here to stay.

:clap:

Anyway the next lot of immigrants will be picking pockets, scamming cash machines and begging in the streets if what is starting to happen to Germany happens here as well.

I know one of the links is from the fail but you get the idea

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-880457.html

http://www.thestockmarketwatch.co/ge...ind-a-job.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...Romanians.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/1981/0806/080667.html


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