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Russ 12-05-2013 15:26

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35570964)
There is when it's over here that they're fighting each other.

it's comical in the way that if there were a load of 'Christians' on the streets of Siria suddenly fighting each other. people would find it unusual and funny at the same time.

It doesn't surprise me that you'd consider it 'funny' and 'comical'. This is about as much about religion as actual football is to the Cardiff Soul Crew (you'll be finding out all about them next season). In NI it stopped being about Catholics/Protestants decades ago, it's now tribal, about 'families' and areas. If there are more 'Muslim' gang wars coming in the UK then that too will have little or nothing to do with their religion.

Gary L 12-05-2013 15:35

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35571033)
If there are more 'Muslim' gang wars coming in the UK then that too will have little or nothing to do with their religion.

I think Muslims take their religion very seriously. it affects their everyday life.

why do you say it will have little or nothing to do with that one thing that they wake up for?

what do you think the reason would be for any disagreements between themselves?

Russ 12-05-2013 16:29

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571039)
I think Muslims take their religion very seriously. it affects their everyday life.

How you think you can speak with authority on how any follower of a religion lives their life is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571039)
why do you say it will have little or nothing to do with that one thing that they wake up for?

Do some actual research on Islam (as opposed to reading a few forums) and you'll figure it out for yourself.

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571039)
what do you think the reason would be for any disagreements between themselves?

No idea. Go ask some followers of Islam.

Gary L 12-05-2013 16:47

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35571075)
How you think you can speak with authority on how any follower of a religion lives their life is beyond me.

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Do some actual research on Islam (as opposed to reading a few forums) and you'll figure it out for yourself.
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No idea. Go ask some followers of Islam.
I don't know why you bother adding something to a thread when you never debate in the thread.

:D

Russ 12-05-2013 17:25

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571082)
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I don't know why you bother adding something to a thread when you never debate in the thread.

:D

Really. So tell me about how many Muslims you know personally and what they've told you about their faith affects their lives.

Gary L 12-05-2013 17:33

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35571102)
Really. So tell me about how many Muslims you know personally and what they've told you about their faith affects their lives.

I know 11 personally. the rest I just know by face.
they've told me lots of things of how their faith affects their everyday lives.

can you answer a question now, instead of the usual go and find out for yourself?

why do you say it will have little or nothing to do with their religion?

Russ 12-05-2013 17:38

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571113)

why do you say it will have little or nothing to do with their religion?

Because there is nothing in their holy book or teachings that says they should be fighting within their ranks in that way.

Which of course you'd know if you really did personally know any followers of Islam.

martyh 12-05-2013 17:40

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571113)
I know 11 personally. the rest I just know by face.
they've told me lots of things of how their faith affects their everyday lives.

can you answer a question now, instead of the usual go and find out for yourself?

why do you say it will have little or nothing to do with their religion?

If i may

Because there religion is supposed to be a peaceful one ,as is Christianity and any disagreement/war/fight is only about peoples own hatred of other people who think different nothing to do with the religion ,if that religion was removed then those same people would argue about shoes or which way to crack an egg(read Gulliver's Travels) .

Hugh 12-05-2013 19:14

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35571113)
I know 11 personally. the rest I just know by face.
they've told me lots of things of how their faith affects their everyday lives.

can you answer a question now, instead of the usual go and find out for yourself?

why do you say it will have little or nothing to do with their religion?

How can you tell "by face"?

If you mean from the Indian sub-continent, the majority of people from India are Hindu.

martyh 12-05-2013 19:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35571168)
How can you tell "by face"?
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I think he means they work in the local take away and he has spoke to them therefore he knows all about Islam

Gary L 12-05-2013 20:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35571168)
How can you tell "by face"?

Just like you can know someone by face only.

No, I don't mean colours. I don't do colours.

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35571180)
I think he means they work in the local take away and he has spoke to them therefore he knows all about Islam

I thought we were doing Asians. not Chinese?

Hugh 12-05-2013 21:58

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You can tell someone's religion by their face - impressive.

Can you differentiate between the different sub-groupings, such as Sunni/Shia/Sufi, Vaishnavism/Shaivism/Shaktism/Smartism/Jainism/Buddhism, Catholic/Protestant/Orthodox, and can you tell if someone is Agnostic/Atheist by their face?

Gary L 12-05-2013 22:05

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What are you going on about now?

who said they can tell someone's religion by face?
I never.

thenry 12-05-2013 22:15

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35571116)
Because there is nothing in their holy book or teachings that says they should be fighting within their ranks in that way.

Which of course you'd know if you really did personally know any followers of Islam.

yes there is. theres text on hypocrites, saying one thing and doing another, ones who say they follow the faith but don't.

Theres the Quran, then theres other books too. If I'm correct its written in these books that theres going to be several different types of Muslims. I don't know the exact number but I know its around 70-90. Thats MASSIVE conflict within.

Russ 12-05-2013 22:33

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35571242)
yes there is.

Examples?


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