Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Now the ASA echo's what many of us have said about Virgins misleading unlimited claims *shock horror!* ;)

Now can we have less of those threads with people claiming Virgin broadband is unlimited :LOL:

I hope Sky, BT and the other unlimited providers have a dig about VM's limited broadband in one of their next adverts :D

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Perhaps this will push them down the route of under promise over deliver. From what I have heard the network can deliver far higher than 120 right now, so they could for example advertise 60, deliver 120 then even if throttled you get the advertised speed at all times?

However the ban is only for the current advert and it looks like they are trying to get clarity on what can be considered moderate which is a shame

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Possibly coincidence that they posted an announcement about change of traffic management policy? When I saw today's date and title I thought it may say they were removing the limits but alas, just a 10% reduction rofl.



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Doesn't matter if your Core network can handle higher speeds if you have bottlenecks closer to customers, which is exactly the problem Virgin have.

Another banned/misleading advert. Up to about 40 for Virgin in the last 2 or so years?

This could potentially be a disaster for a company that relies on misleading PR to get customers connected.

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Will probably be a new approach once the Liberty deal is concluded at that point they will be the largest operator in Europe, Liberty have already re built their network in Southern Ireland so could potentially do the same in the UK

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

There are rumours that VM changed the traffic management today as a way around the ruling.

VM can now say that they only slow down customers 40% instead of 50% and that may be enough to make the ASA think unlimited is ok. Seems wrong.

Upload speed is to stay restricted at 75% though. That restriction alone could possibly affect download speed too

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Arghh...bit of that article I didn't notice before:

Linky

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Umm that's exactly what they've been doing for a decade?

The current service is "Up to" 400Mbps throttled to 20/30/50/60/100/120 depending on how much you pay, and then further throttled to 5/15/25Mbps etc. if you use full speed for more than 15 minutes at peak times...

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

God. is this still going on with Virgin and the 'Unlimited' thing?

how many years has it been now?

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Its been going on long before my grey hairs started to appear.:)

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

It's about time that it was put to rest this Unlimited thing.
when it comes to the internet the term Unlimited means no limits. barriers or obstacles.

I have an unlimited usenet account. the alternative to the one I have is the block one where you can only download a certain amount. compared to keep going and no limits, barriers or obstacles.

Virgin know that it's misleading to many. that's why they want to use the internet term 'Unlimited' because they know that people assume that it means Unlimited without any limits, barriers, obstacles, letters saying that you're downloading too much. and traffic shaping measures.

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

I think they'll get over it.

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UPC rebuilt their network in Ireland because a lot of it was analogue, and strung up, poorly, from house to house.

It was, in fact, NTL that started the rebuild when they owned it.

There is no need to rebuild the UK Network.

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

even if it is a minority, that still doesn't give them the right to mislead customers into thinking its unlimited.

You may want that peace of mind, if one night you decide to go major crazy and download a lot of stuff, and then realize that you've been capped.

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

Not arguing the wrongs and rights of the unlimited statement, but on any VM package, 30meg and above, even when capped, it's still a lot faster than most Sky/BT ADSL connections.


And the fact that I can download as much as I want, even though when capped it will download it slower, the content that I can download is unlimited. VM need to reword things, but in this sense, it is unlimited.

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

I recon the 40% reduction might get them through a month or so, but BT and Sky will continue to lodge complains. In my opinion anything more than 25% can't be considered moderate.

Re: BSkyB and BT force Virgin Media to drop unlimited broadband claim
 

You lose 20% at peak time just due to congestion anyway, if it weren't for the traffic management you would lose even more.

ASA: Virgin Media's Broadband Is Not Unlimited
 

From the Daily Mail, but the comments are good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/bil..._campaign=1490